+1
Agree.

On 20 okt. 2015, at 04:36, tonybsa wrote:

> 
>> On 18/10/2015, at 08:17, James E. Lang <jim+...@lang.hm> wrote:
>> 
>> PLEASE, developers, think about the impact your change will have on existing 
>> users.  The longer a shortcut has existed the more attention should be given 
>> should be given to the impact of changing it with shortcuts that have 
>> existed for more than one full major release being ALMOST cast in granite. 
> 
> This particular change from F4 to Ctrl-Shift_F4 for data source in Calc but 
> not in Writer is a massive problem. The F4 shortcut has been around for YEARS.
> 
> I now have to re-write my tutorials and workshop examples.
> I now have to go back to the hundreds of users that have been using F4 for 
> YEARS and try to explain why there is a difference between Calc & Writer.
> 
> A large number of the people (I have trained ) that use LibreOffice use F4 
> for mail merge in Writer and Pivot Tables in Calc. 
> Because the usual source is a MySQL database where data is being updated on a 
> regular basis, the mail merge and pivot tables need updating regularly.
> 
> Why was this change made? 
> As far as I can see (from the bugzilla history) it was requested in 2013 
> because 1 or 2 people, that are changing from Lotus 123 to Calc could not 
> make the change from F4 to Shift-F4 for the "Absolute cell reference 
> shortcut".
> 
> I don't remember any of "my" users having ever found it necessary to change 
> the cell reference from absolute to relative once they have formatted a cell.
> 
> So I agree with James Lang & Alexander Thurgood when they decry this change.
> Who made the change 2 years after it was requested, without discussing it 
> with the people on this list?
> 
> Developers, please do NOT make changes to existing menu options and shortcuts 
> without FULLY consulting the "professional" users of LibreOffice. 
> Thank you.
> 
> Tony Bray
> 
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