You could develop a custom viewer, it has been done:
https://github.com/apache/isis/blob/master/adocs/documentation/src/main/asciidoc/pages/powered-by/_powered-by_gesconsultor-grc.adoc On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:47 PM, SE Song <seson...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank for your advice, > > First, I though that integrating Isis with ZK is an easy task, but I spend > many days without any task done. Now I don't know what should I do next, > last option is using restful object, but I hate writing UI (Javascript + > HTML + CSS), it's a lot of time consuming. > > I have started develop without any knowledge base even Java EE(JDO, CDI, > ORM,...), So I decide to learn Apache Wicket and Java EE, before I start > Apache Isis again. > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Stephen Cameron < > steve.cameron...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Regarding ZK 'Presentation Layer' seems this is the ability to use ZK > > components in a template context, eg JSP, Struts. That is doing things > at a > > lower level, but interesting to ask if such a lower level exists in > Apache > > Isis. > > > > I see there is a Freemaker templates module in the Incode Platform. I've > no > > experience with it but maybe it's worth checking out? > > > > I've a perceived need that is related, essentially a presentation layer > on > > top of my domain model, which is detached forms. This is a common > business > > need that Apache Isis, I feel, shouldn't necessarily cater for, but which > > could perhaps be integrated via the functionality in its meta-model. I > say > > this because of a perceived similarity in how the meta-model is used to > > bind the Java domain object model to the UI and a similar thing in the > W3C > > XForms standard. In the first case via name conventions, in the later > more > > like a spreadsheet. > > > > Some forms can be very complex, but are a process follower idiom rather > > than a problem solver one. Ultimately the data collected in a form has to > > find a use, maybe this will be simply for analysis via queries on a > > database, However, to have the two idioms coexisting when necessary, > > seems nice to have. > > > > I had a potential project recently that was more of a content management > > system need, lots safety documents, and of forms for people to fill in to > > prove they had read and understood. Apache Isis didn't seem that good a > fit > > in total, but for parts it was very good, the management parts. Using > the > > security module, via the meta-model, was very powerful in getting a MVP > > done quickly. > > > > Thinking outside the box in regards to a presentation layer, I am a fan > of > > XQuery, which though originating to manipulate XML documents, is designed > > around a more general meta-model (of sequences) essentially. So the data > > source can be anything. This flexibility led to a platform called XRX > > (XForms, REST, XQuery) that sadly went nowhere. > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:43 PM, SE Song <seson...@gmail.com > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seson...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > > > > Moving off isn't my option, because I love Apache Isis anyways. Only > one > > > thing that I doesn't like is UI, that's why I try to use ZK as my UI. I > > > know I'm going to throws out one of the framework's key features, but > > > Apache > > > Isis isn't just a tool for generate UI, there are a lot more features. > > > > > > ZK isn't just a viewer or Frontend Layer, it also has Presentation > Layer, > > > On my previous project I use ZK & JDBC using Constructor. while Apache > > Isis > > > using Dependency Injection @Inject, But I don't have a lot of > experience > > on > > > this. I also doubt what I'm trying to do the wrong ways. But If this > > > possible, I will be able to build a greate development environment. So > I > > > try all options that maybe possible for me and meet my requirement. > > > > > > It also has advantage for a Framework which be able to integrate with > > other > > > Framework for multiple options. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Stephen Cameron < > > > steve.cameron...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','steve.cameron...@gmail.com');> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I seriously doubt this can work in the way you imagine. > > > > > > > > You'd have to write a whole new ZK based viewer (like the standard > > Wicket > > > > one). See the org.apache.isis.viewer.wicket.* packages (4 jars) in > > the > > > > Maven dependencies of the webapp. > > > > > > > > Maybe Dan is suggesting to move off Apache Isis once you are happy > with > > > > your domain model, so Apache Isis is only used for prototyping? > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:57 PM, SE Song <seson...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seson...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I already create a repository here https://github.com/sesong11/ > > > > > ApacheIsisZK > > > > > and create ZK VM here > > > > > https://github.com/sesong11/ApacheIsisZK/blob/master/ > > > > webapp/src/main/java/ > > > > > domainapp/webapp/zkvm/SampleVM.java > > > > > > > > > > Now another issue on integrating ZK, I can't Inject my repository > on > > ZK > > > > VM, > > > > > Everything ok, excepted Injecting Service, it always null. > > > > > > > > > > The problem is ZK initiate VM using Contructor, @PostConstruct on > ZK > > VM > > > > has > > > > > never been called. Can you please help me how to Inject service > > outside > > > > of > > > > > container, or guide me another possible ways > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:48 AM, SE Song <seson...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seson...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm building an business process application, we manage staff > > > > information > > > > > > and request form such as Leave Request, OT, IT Form... > > > > > > each form mush has at least employee info, and form detail... > > > > > > > > > > > > Auto generate UI is very good idea, e.s it's testable too. But > > > > Management > > > > > > are not developer, it's very difficult to convince them about > > > changing > > > > > > their ideas, they always ask what they want. > > > > > > They always concern about look and feel at first. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will create a repository for integrate Apache Isis and ZK > > > framework > > > > > for > > > > > > UI, If everything go well, I will use ZK for Frontend Layer and > > > > > > Presentation Layer, > > > > > > and Apache Isis for Business Logic, Business Model and Data > Layer. > > I > > > > also > > > > > > concern about integrating ZK VM to Isis Repository too, because > ZK > > > use > > > > > > Constructor out site container, > > > > > > so Inject Service maybe impossible or difficult. But I will try > and > > > > post > > > > > > on Github > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Dan Haywood < > > > > > > d...@haywood-associates.co.uk > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@haywood-associates.co.uk');>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> If the behaviour of the text field in particular is problematic, > > > then > > > > > you > > > > > >> can develop and plug in a different implementation using the > > Wicket > > > > > >> framework. The Wicket viewer guide has details on how to do > this > > > > > >> (fullcalendar2, gmap3 use this API). > > > > > >> > > > > > >> That said... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> You said your pages are form heavy, and are all view models. I > > > wonder > > > > > >> therefore whether you are fighting the framework too much. Why > > are > > > > you > > > > > >> using view models rather than just surface entities? Why do your > > > users > > > > > >> need > > > > > >> so much information on a single page - what use cases are you > > > trying > > > > to > > > > > >> support? Where is this app on the "problem solver Vs process > > > follower" > > > > > >> axis? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> One option for you might be to use Isis as a development > > environment > > > > (to > > > > > >> build a good quality domain model) but then write a custom UI, > eg > > in > > > > ZK > > > > > on > > > > > >> top of it. Obviously this throws out one of the framework's key > > > > > features, > > > > > >> but you get full flexibility to do whatever. Or, you could use > the > > > > Rest > > > > > >> api > > > > > >> to accomplish the same. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> But, I do suggest you also try to work within the constraints of > > the > > > > > >> framework, and see what that gives you. We know of plenty of > > > "problem > > > > > >> solver" type apps that are out there that work well enough > without > > > > lots > > > > > of > > > > > >> customisations. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hth, > > > > > >> Dan. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 12:11 SE Song, <seson...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seson...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Yes, I am learning about it. And another option for me is > using > > ZK > > > > > >> > framework for UI > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel > / > > > Ham > > > > > >> GI-DP < > > > > > >> > joerg.r...@kuehne-nagel.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joerg.r...@kuehne-nagel.com');>> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Have you considered using the RestfulObjects interface [1] > > yet? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > -j > > > > > >> > > [1] https://isis.apache.org/guides/ugvro/ugvro.html > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > > > >> > > Von: SE Song [mailto:seson...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seson...@gmail.com');>] > > > > > >> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. November 2017 11:28 > > > > > >> > > An: users@isis.apache.org > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','users@isis.apache.org');> > > > > > >> > > Betreff: Re: Customize UI behavior > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > My issue isn't just scrolling, but also behavior of Textbox. > > If > > > > it's > > > > > >> > > possible to change it behavior from clicking and show OK > > Button > > > & > > > > > >> Cancel > > > > > >> > > Button to use ajax to bind it to VM without bother user to > > click > > > > > >> submit. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Stephen Cameron < > > > > > >> > > steve.cameron...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','steve.cameron...@gmail.com');> > > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Ok, but using tabs via layout.xml is still an option. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Maybe using a JAXB VM causes a full page reload? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Do you have to use them? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:13 PM, SE Song < > > seson...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seson...@gmail.com');>> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > It always scroll like this. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:10 PM, SE Song < > > > seson...@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seson...@gmail.com > ');>> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Sorry that I did not specified that I am using JAXB VM. > > It > > > > just > > > > > >> > > > >> submit > > > > > >> > > > to > > > > > >> > > > >> VM > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Stephen Cameron < > > > > > >> > > > >> steve.cameron...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','steve.cameron...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >>> More details here: https://www.youtube.com/watch? > > > > > v=MxewC5Pve5k > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Stephen Cameron < > > > > > >> > > > >>> steve.cameron...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','steve.cameron...@gmail.com');> > > > > > >> > > > >>> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >>> > Have you tried using tabs via the xxx.layout.xml? > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > My pages aren't more than one screen height and I've > > not > > > > had > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > > > other > > > > > >> > > > >>> > problems that you indicate, Apache Isis doesn't > > submit a > > > > > form > > > > > >> in > > > > > >> > > > >>> > the > > > > > >> > > > >>> sense > > > > > >> > > > >>> > of an HTML <form> element, each click of OK submits > > the > > > > > >> updated > > > > > >> > > > >>> > value > > > > > >> > > > >>> to > > > > > >> > > > >>> > the database. > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >>> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:36 PM, SE Song < > > > > > seson...@gmail.com > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seson...@gmail.com');>> > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> Dear All, > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> After presentation Apache Isis to my manager, what > he > > > > > doesn't > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> like > > > > > >> > > > is > > > > > >> > > > >>> UI, > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> Because the application which I am developing is HR > > > > System, > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> which > > > > > >> > > > has > > > > > >> > > > >>> a > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> lot > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> of form, so UX is very important for us. > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> After Using Apache Isis for a while I have some > > problem > > > > on > > > > > UI > > > > > >> > > > >>> behavior as > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> bellow: > > > > > >> > > > >>> >> 1. 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