Hi Andi, I think it's great to strive for the best, and I have respect for Spring since its inception. One concern I have is that domain objects persisted to multiple data stores would still work with Isis on top of Spring persistence. Can you check on this capability as you go? JPA is fine for my needs because I'm dealing with RDMS's, and there are a few tools available to generate database mappings. Implementing JDO for Spring persistence would also work if it could use the Datanucleus implementation.
Otherwise, can we back-port the changes you made in the v2 branch to support the latest Datanucleus builds to the v1 branch? Thanks! Brian On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:43 AM Andi Huber <ahu...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > I do agree, that this would be the time to change the project's name, also > having in mind that version 2 could be the one, that receives a popularity > boost. But (regardless of my personal opinion on that) ... > > .. I suspect renaming the project would take at least two weeks, if not > more. We could do it yes, but I fear, we simply have more urgent matters to > address for the foreseeable future (this year). > > Cheers, Andi > > On 2019/03/29 07:54:05, Stephen Cameron <steve.cameron...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'm not doing much programming these days, but did have a thought today > > about name change, for what's it's worth, 'Apache Sisi'. Maybe 'yes yes' > in > > Spanish? > > > > Major change maybe good time to bump the old name? > > > > On Friday, March 29, 2019, Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:43 PM Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / HAM > GI-DP < > > > joerg.r...@kuehne-nagel.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Andi, > > > > > > > > my 2c: > > > > > > > > The move to Spring (Boot?) will very likely popularize the framework > and > > > > therefore is the right thing to do. > > > > > > > > I never really had an issue with JDO and found it's debugging output > > > > helpful. I hope Hibernate can keep up with that. > > > > > > > > CMIIW: Spring's CDI relies on the ComponentScan (CS) at start up > time and > > > > does not allow for easy changes at runtime. > > > > > > > > > > What kind of changes do you mean ? > > > Spring will use component scan only if you tell it to do it. You can > > > bootstrap the application from a @Configuration class(es) without > using any > > > stereotype annotations like @Component, @Service, etc. > > > > > > > > > > But this is probably not an issue for existing applications, nor do > most > > > > web applications require such a feature. > > > > > > > > Years ago I saw CS entering a second round, ending with multiple > > > instances > > > > of Singletons - ROTFL. > > > > Admittedly this was as well due to the size of the project (~ 1.5M > LOC) > > > > and excessive use of applicationContext.xml's - but hey: a basic > > > constraint > > > > was not enforced. > > > > > > > > I don't care too much about how the eventing mechanism of the > framework > > > is > > > > implemented (same degree of ignorance as with persistence) as long > as the > > > > features are available ;-) > > > > > > > > After all: Apache projects are meritocratic societies - so go ahead > and > > > > keep up the good work! > > > > > > > > Thx -j > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG > > > > Rechtsform: Kommanditgesellschaft, Bremen HRA 21928, USt-IdNr.: DE > > > > 812773878. > > > > Geschäftsleitung Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG: Holger Ketz (Vors. ), > Tom > > > > Ban, Martin Brinkmann, Matthias Knicky, Nicholas Minde, Johannes > > > Trimborn, > > > > Lars Wedel, Matthias Weiner. > > > > Persönlich haftende Gesellschafterin: Kühne & Nagel A.G., Rechtsform: > > > > Aktiengesellschaft nach luxemburgischem Recht, HR-Nr.: B 18745, > > > > Geschäftsführendes Verwaltungsratsmitglied: Karl Gernandt. > > > > Geschäftsleitung Region Europa: Dr. Hansjörg Rodi (Vors.), Mart > Ambur, > > > Tom > > > > Ban, Dominic Edmonds, Thierry Held, Uwe Hött, Richard Huhn, > Jan-Hendrik > > > > Köstergarten, Heiko Schuhmacher. > > > > > > > > Wir arbeiten ausschließlich auf Grundlage der Allgemeinen Deutschen > > > > Spediteurbedingungen 2017 (ADSp 2017). Hinweis: Die ADSp 2017 > weichen in > > > > Ziffer 23 hinsichtlich des Haftungshöchstbetrages für Güterschäden > (§ 431 > > > > HGB) vom Gesetz ab, indem sie die Haftung bei multimodalen > Transporten > > > > unter Einschluss einer Seebeförderung und bei unbekanntem Schadenort > auf > > > 2 > > > > SZR/kg und im Übrigen die Regelhaftung von 8,33 SZR/kg zusätzlich auf > > > 1,25 > > > > Millionen Euro je Schadenfall sowie 2,5 Millionen Euro je > > > Schadenereignis, > > > > mindestens aber 2 SZR/kg, beschränken. Die ADSp sind auf unserer > Webseite > > > > als Download erhältlich. Auf Anfrage senden wir Ihnen diese auch > gerne > > > zu. > > > > > > > > > >
