The /MyDataset/ is slightly magic.

Fuseki inspects the request and determines if it is a query or an update.

It is a query if:
1/ The URL query string of the request URI has ?query= in it. (GET or HTML form)
2/ The content type is application/sparql-query (POST)

and an update if:

3/ The URL update string is ?update= (GET or HTML form - GET wil be bounced later on).
4/ The content type is application/sparql-update (POST)

The code is in ServiceRouter.chooseOperation(HttpAction,DataService)

It returns the determines operation which then is used to direct to the request to the right code - query or update.

If sent to /query or /update the Fuseki knows it is a query or update directly. There is still checking.

The logs shows the system the system detected the request as a POSTed query (from YASQE - Fuseki uses a 3rd part SPARQL javascript editor) because it logs "Query =" then parses it as query where DELETE is not allowed.

This becomes more important at Fuseki 3.10 because the next version supports access control so query vs update matters more.

s-update will send it as an update using POST with the right content type.

This is not to do with browsers.

    Andy


On 28/11/2018 20:13, Vincent Ventresque wrote:
Thanks Andy.

I don't understand : 'update' queries work in UI most of the time (and when I re-write this 'delete' query, it works... Of course I have to give http://localhost:3030/MyDataset or http://localhost:3030/MyDataset/update as endpoint url (above dialog box), not http://localhost:3030/MyDataset/query).

Besides, I'm not sure the problem didn't occur with 'select' or other 'read-only' queries (I'll report the case if it happens).

BUT the error message (see here : https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffl-misc/files/fuseki_strange_errors ) says

Encountered " "delete" "delete "" at line 19, column 1.
Was expecting one of:
     "base" ...
     "prefix" ...
     "select" ...
     "json" ...
     "describe" ...
     "construct" ...
     "ask" ...
      (7 ms)

and not 'delete', 'insert', so maybe the parser doesn't like updates as you said.

-- Another case, maybe irrelevant for this problem, where I get errors : I often try a query in the UI first, and then copy-paste the string in a custom script to reuse it with command-line tools (the script passes the query string to other scripts such as s-query, tdbquery, s-update). I noticed that the 'auto-formatting' (indentation, spaces, code folds, etc) in the UI dialog box inserts 'special characters' and sometimes I have to chop them to get the script working. Maybe there's something wrong with a special character in this 'delete' query too? (N.B. : I don't remember if the error message is 'lexical error' or 'parse error' in this case)

-- a final point (don't know if it's relevant either) : I use only Firefox, didn't try with other browsers. Do you think the problem could be linked to javascript or some other piece of the web interface in firefox (maybe a bug in firefox itself) ?


Le 28/11/2018 à 14:53, Andy Seaborne a écrit :
Vincent,

It's a parse because DELETE is SPARQL Update and the query editor is for query. In SPARQL, they are different languages.

There is some way (IIRC) to use the UI with update but I can't remember how - maybe someone else can answer that part.

    Andy

On 28/11/2018 11:28, Vincent Ventresque wrote:
Hello,

Sometimes I have a '400 Parse error' when typing a query in Fuseki UI.
-- Here, the query string 'delete {?s ?p ?o } where {?s ?p ?o }' doesn't work at first. N.B.: I hadn't pasted the string from other software, everything had been typed in the query dialog box. -- If I change the string for a construct query (cut 'delete', type 'construct' instead), it's ok. Then I cut 'construct' and type 'delete' again, this time it works.
-- Nothing in log file


I get this error with fuseki 3.9.0 and 3.5.0.

I've uploaded a screenshot of the UI + a .txt file where you can see the infos (install version, terminal output) : https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffl-misc/files/fuseki_strange_errors

Do you have encountered this problem? Do you know where it comes from?

Thanks in advance,

Vincent

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