Thank you very much Andy,

My thinking was that if the target node's conformance depends on other nodes 
its connected to, then surely it wouldn't conform if they didn't conform, from 
a logical point of view.

Is it possible at all to suggest maybe adding a third overloaded property that 
explicitly ignores the sh:qualifiedValueShape declarations? It could be called 
validateIgnoreQSD or something. Is this the right place to make such a 
suggestion?

I am very grateful for your help.

Yasir

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> 
Sent: 28 January 2022 12:50
To: users@jena.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Validation issue



On 28/01/2022 12:27, Alani, Yasir wrote:
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Have you had a chance to look at the difference between the overloaded 
> "validate" methods of "ShaclValidator", in terms of qualified value shapes.

See message of 2021-01-27.

Jena gets one validation error - this is correct. If you call it with one 
target node, you only get the validation errors for that target node.

That's what the command line is doing as well.

shacl v -data data.ttl -shapes shapes.ttl \
     -target 
'https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.semanticweb.org%2Fyas%23Car_1&amp;data=04%7C01%7CY.Alani%40tees.ac.uk%7Ce99b6735cd8f49ff95d408d9e25cc48d%7C43d2115ba55e46b69df7b03388ecfc60%7C0%7C0%7C637789710327457359%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=7hUBlo67S3OdnRruQoffjLbvMnibYrCUzKSoMO2J9ms%3D&amp;reserved=0'


NB: You need to call it with 
"https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.semanticweb.org%2Fyas%23Car_1&amp;data=04%7C01%7CY.Alani%40tees.ac.uk%7Ce99b6735cd8f49ff95d408d9e25cc48d%7C43d2115ba55e46b69df7b03388ecfc60%7C0%7C0%7C637789710327457359%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=7hUBlo67S3OdnRruQoffjLbvMnibYrCUzKSoMO2J9ms%3D&amp;reserved=0";
not "yas:Car_1".

public static void main(String... args) throws IOException {
   String DIR = ....
   Graph data = RDFDataMgr.loadGraph(DIR+"/data.ttl");
   Graph shapes = RDFDataMgr.loadGraph(DIR+"/shapes.ttl");
   Node target = NodeFactory.createURI
       
("https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.semanticweb.org%2Fyas%23Car_1&amp;data=04%7C01%7CY.Alani%40tees.ac.uk%7Ce99b6735cd8f49ff95d408d9e25cc48d%7C43d2115ba55e46b69df7b03388ecfc60%7C0%7C0%7C637789710327457359%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=7hUBlo67S3OdnRruQoffjLbvMnibYrCUzKSoMO2J9ms%3D&amp;reserved=0";);
   ValidationReport report = ShaclValidator.get()
        .validate(shapes, data, target);
   RDFDataMgr.write(System.out, report.getGraph(), Lang.TTL); }

     Andy


> 
> Apologies if I bothered you with this.
> 
> Yasir
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org>
> Sent: 27 January 2022 08:40
> To: users@jena.apache.org
> Subject: Re: FW: Validation issue
> 
> On 26/01/2022 22:49, Alani, Yasir wrote:
>> *The node to be validated is "yas:Car_1"
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alani, Yasir <y.al...@tees.ac.uk>
>> Sent: 26 January 2022 22:38
>> To: users@jena.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: FW: Validation issue
>>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> Thank you for responding.
>>
>> What I meant by "work" is producing the correct/expected result, which is 
>> the 2 violations you received. The issue only seems to happen when I try to 
>> validate a node using the method "validate(Shapes shapes, Graph data, Node 
>> node)". The node in this case is "aso:Car_1". This method doesn't seem to 
>> 'like' qualified value shapes, as it returns 0 violations.
> 
> I get one violation when calling:
> 
> shacl v -data data.ttl -shapes shapes.ttl \
>       -target 
> 'https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.semanticweb.org%2Fyas%23Wheel_1&amp;data=04%7C01%7CY.Alani%40tees.ac.uk%7Ce99b6735cd8f49ff95d408d9e25cc48d%7C43d2115ba55e46b69df7b03388ecfc60%7C0%7C0%7C637789710327457359%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=F2DIUl56XkYMdHLopIGwoHEcBEmE%2BmrGY%2FIMngO%2Fn3U%3D&amp;reserved=0'
> 
> There are two target nodes. yas:Wheel_1 and yas:Car_1
> 
> "Per node"  is "find which shapes have the node as a target node and call 
> that shape".
> 
> If the specified node isn't in the targets of the data+shapes, you get zero 
> violations.
> 
>       Andy
> 
>>
>> However, when I validate the entire data graph using method "validate(Shapes 
>> shapes, Graph data)" I do get 2 violations. Are these methods designed to 
>> work this way?
>>
>> I was using Jena 4.1.0 and even when I updated to Jena 4.3.2, I still get 
>> the same results.
>>
>> I used the old (TQ) shacl playground, which returned 2 violations as well.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Yasir
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org>
>> Sent: 26 January 2022 20:41
>> To: users@jena.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: FW: Validation issue
>>
>> Yasir,
>>
>> What is "work" here?
>>
>> I get 2 violations with Jena 4.3.2 - the same as (current latest) TQ 
>> shacl. (1 violation on a quite old, pre 4.x.x version of Jena - which 
>> version are you running?)
>>
>> Which SHACL playground did you use (there are two).
>>
>> The old (TopQuadrant) SHACL playground returns 2 violations.
>> The Zazuko one returns 2 violations.
> 
>>
>> [ rdf:type     sh:ValidationReport ;
>>      sh:conforms  false ;
>>      sh:result    [
>>          rdf:type                      sh:ValidationResult ;
>>          sh:focusNode                  yas:Wheel_1 ;
>>          sh:resultMessage
>>     "Data value \"600\"^^xsd:float is not less than or equal to 200" ;
>>          sh:resultPath                 ( yas:hasDiameter yas:hasValue ) ;
>>          sh:resultSeverity             sh:Violation ;
>>          sh:sourceConstraintComponent  sh:MaxInclusiveConstraintComponent ;
>>          sh:sourceShape                []  ;
>>          sh:value                      "600"^^xsd:float
>>      ] ;
>>      sh:result    [
>>          rdf:type                      sh:ValidationResult ;
>>          sh:focusNode                  yas:Car_1 ;
>>          sh:resultMessage
>> "QualifiedValueShape[1,_,false]: Min = 1 but got 0 validations" ;
>>          sh:resultPath                 yas:hasComponent ;
>>          sh:resultSeverity             sh:Violation ;
>>          sh:sourceConstraintComponent
>>             sh:QualifiedMinCountConstraintComponent ;
>>          sh:sourceShape                []
>>      ]
>> ] .
>>
>>        Andy
>>

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