though, and*** I thought I'd ask for clarification. Apologies, trying to multitask while sending an email isn't my strong suit.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 10:38 AM J Sisson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello John, > > The original question came across to my (admittedly untrained) eye as a > question specific to CHIRP > and how to input data into CHIRP, which to me suggested not a lack of > RADIO knowledge, but a lack > of CHIRP knowledge. I probably missed some context that made it stand out > as a newbie question, > though, and > > I got my GROL (now CM?) in 1999 while serving in the US Marines, but my > career took a different turn post > service and I haven't used it much since. I have my GMRS "license" (haha) > for SHTF type of communications > (I've had this discussion with some of my friends who are > ham-licensed, and my concern for natural disaster/ > societal unrest/etc... type of communications is the ability to stay in > touch with family/friends in the local area, > hence my decision to get GMRS vs. ham for the time being). I am > considering getting ham licensing, but I > tend to ask a lot of questions, hence my original question on asking > questions =). > > Jon > > P.S. - I didn't see the initial reply as snarky, in particular, just to > the point. I think the OpenBSD mailing lists > have a historic record of being a bit "to the point" with newbies (in a > similar vein), but the documentation written > by the OpenBSD team is spectacular, and concise, so generally speaking > when someone asks a question that > is flatly answered in the man pages, people tend to frown upon those types > of questions. I don't see the FCC > regulations as being "spectacular, and concise", though, so realistically > getting some input on new user study > material is where I'm at. > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 9:40 AM John Wuest via Users < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Jon, >> >> There is nothing wrong with being a newbie. All of us started there. >> >> 1) In this particular situation, the original person was asking for >> information on programming a radio to operate on a Public Service >> frequency. >> 2) In the US (and probably elsewhere) to be legal to make such adjustments >> and/or to operate such a radio, a person has to have the appropriate >> training and certification and licensing from the Federal Communications >> Commission. >> 3) The question that was asked screamed "I have no idea what I'm doing and >> I'm not licensed to be doing it." >> >> Now, what is your opinion of the event? >> >> PS - What FCC licenses do you have and which ones are you considering >> adding? >> >> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 9:36 AM J Sisson via Users < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hello list, >> > >> > This is going to come across as a dumb newbie question (because in this >> > context it is), but... >> > >> > How does one get to "having any business transmitting" without asking >> > questions? I assume ham courses/exams are a good starting point, right? >> > >> > Genuinely curious because I'm considering expanding my FCC licenses and >> to >> > be truthful, reading the FCC docs is just...well it's not something I'd >> set >> > aside a Saturday to do. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Jon >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 7:02 AM Scott Lopez via Users < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > Yep. And do you understand that being an asshole to someone just >> reflects >> > > what shitty person you are? But hey, keep on digging that hole deeper >> to >> > > try and prove how superior you are to stroke your petty ego because >> > someone >> > > asked a question on what is supposed to be a helpful mailing list. >> > > >> > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 6:51 AM Tony Ling via Users < >> > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Scott, do you understand the terms 11K0F3E and 16K0F3E? >> > > > Anyone who does not has no business programming a radio to >> commercial >> > > > frequencies. >> > > > Tone. >> > > > >> > > > On 30/07/2025 11:19, Scott Lopez via Users wrote: >> > > > > None of you know the full situation under which they are asking. >> So >> > you >> > > > all just assume, have an attitude and gatekeep. Sad because it’s >> > > attitudes >> > > > like this that turn people off on radio communication. >> > > > > >> > > > > Justify yourselves all you want, it’s still rude. >> > > > > >> > > > >> On Jul 29, 2025, at 11:52 PM, Mike W via Users< >> > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Not at all, Scott. I believe that anyone using a radio with TX >> > > > capability should know, or knows the agent who knows, how to setup >> the, >> > > > obviously, non authorised tranciever. It would be irresponsible for >> > > someone >> > > > on the list to educate an unauthorised person to intercept or Jam >> > > > frequencies to which he is not permitted access. >> > > > >> >> > > > >>> On 29/07/2025 22:30, Scott Lopez via Users wrote: >> > > > >>> Could be a little less judgmental in responding.. >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 1:43 PM Jim Unroe via Users < >> > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> You don't need a tone for listening and you likely don't have >> any >> > > > >>>> business transmitting. >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> Jim KC9HI >> > > > >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Users mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > >> > >> https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/postorius/lists/users.lists.chirpmyradio.com >> > > To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] >> > > To report this email as off-topic, please email >> > > [email protected] >> > > List archives: >> > > >> > >> https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > "The doctors in a mental institution were thinking of releasing a >> certain >> > schizophrenic patient. 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One of the questions they asked him was, "Are you Napoleon?" >> He >> > replied, "No." The machine showed that he was lying." >> > >> > Says it feel right this time >> > Turned around and found the right line >> > "Good day to be alive, sir >> > Good day to be alive", he said >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Users mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > >> https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/postorius/lists/users.lists.chirpmyradio.com >> > To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] >> > To report this email as off-topic, please email >> > [email protected] >> > List archives: >> > >> https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/postorius/lists/users.lists.chirpmyradio.com >> To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] >> To report this email as off-topic, please email >> [email protected] >> List archives: >> https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > -- > "The doctors in a mental institution were thinking of releasing a certain > schizophrenic patient. They decided to give him a test under a lie > detector. One of the questions they asked him was, "Are you Napoleon?" He > replied, "No." The machine showed that he was lying." > > Says it feel right this time > Turned around and found the right line > "Good day to be alive, sir > Good day to be alive", he said > -- "The doctors in a mental institution were thinking of releasing a certain schizophrenic patient. They decided to give him a test under a lie detector. One of the questions they asked him was, "Are you Napoleon?" He replied, "No." The machine showed that he was lying." Says it feel right this time Turned around and found the right line "Good day to be alive, sir Good day to be alive", he said _______________________________________________ Users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/postorius/lists/users.lists.chirpmyradio.com To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected] To report this email as off-topic, please email [email protected] List archives: https://lists.chirpmyradio.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/
