On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 20:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/13/15 19:15, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Maybe if you
> > had just given the straight dope instead of insisting it was easy 
> > to
> > find we wouldn't be having this discussion.
> 
> I suppose so.  Yet one hopes that at least one person could learn a 
> few more commands/methods of doing research from this thread.  You 
> know what they say about giving fish v.s. teaching fishing.  I guess 
> all some people want are the fish.

Or you can give the fish and teach the fishing.

That's enough of this.

poc
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