> On 18 Dec 2022, at 21:28, Tom Horsley <horsley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 21:19:02 +0000
> Barry wrote:
> 
>> That like my router config. Except I use systemd-networkd not networkmanager.
>> Its been stable over lots of fedora releases.
> 
> Right up till the release when they decide to eradicate it
> because everyone must use NetworkManager :-).

I remove network manager years ago and it has not come back in f37.

I do see NetworkManager-libnm that is a dep of lots of stuff so that cannot be 
removed.

But all my interfaces are  .network units in /etc/systemd/network

> 
> That's why I gave up and figured out how to beat NetworkManager
> into submission sicne I figured I'd be forced to use it in the
> not too distant future.

No you are not forced to use it.

Barry

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