Tim: > > Are the particular discs revoked, or is it your playing hardware? > > (I don't know truthfully descriptive VLC's error messages are.) > > > > Seeing as you say another disc plays, perhaps do some searches against > > the titles of the discs your playing.
home user: > I've already spent man days researching this, examining web pages that > the search engine listed, and trying things. That's how I got the URLs > that I put in my posts, and the files that I downloaded and put into the > /etc/xdg/aacs/ directory. > > I don't know if the disc or the player got "revoked". I did not > adequately understand those parts of the Arch Linux page. All I could advise about that would be researching the disc titles for other objections. However... regarding revocation, there's a bunch of encryption involved to (allegedly) prevent piracy (as if that EVER worked) and also some after-the-fact rights management. So, you could have legitimately bought discs and hardware, and because of something (*) outside of your control your purchase gets negated at some time in the future. * That could be some rights issue with a movie that changed, it could be punishment against a drive manufacturer because their hardware helped piracy simply because pirates cracked something via it, or it offered some feature they don't like (e.g. region free, or being able to skip the unskippable portions of a disc). Each disc carries a variety of certifications, and a list of revoked ones. Playback hardware also has certifications in it. Playing that disc does some checks with the player's hardware, and an internet check can be involved, too. Newer discs can have an increased list of revocations, and playing that disc will permanently update the data in your player, and can invalidate discs that previously played, or invalidate player hardware. It's a cartel. Theoretically, they *could* decide that everyone who bought a particular movie at some stage *must* buy a newer release and kill the prior one to force the issue. > I am thinking of getting a new TV in a year or two, after UHD 4K TVs > with at least a P3 color space have been out long enough to come down in > and level off in price. I'll have to keep in mind what you said here. > I will want to play UHD and regular blu-ray movies on it. > > I did not know that blu-ray players required internet access. Are you > sure it's the player, not the TV? > No. Though the odds stack up towards it. Often, it screws up and that's *always* internet related (Sony's authentication server cannot be accessed, or it doesn't respond, and there's lots of on-line complaints about that). Later, when it can access it, things come good again. I originally bought one of these bluray players, and found it quite good, so bought a second one for the lounge (slightly better model with ethernet and WiFi, the first one didn't have WiFi). After a while the first started going bad, so I made a reasonable guess that the player had gone faulty. The second one has been fine, but it gets used far less often, so it's had less opportunities to screw up. I bought a third one to replace the first, this time the better model, the same as the one that's working fine in the lounge. It wasn't that long before this third one started exhibiting the same behaviour. During that time, I had fibre to the home internet, all the players were connected via ethernet, had permanent internet access, and my LAN is in excellent health. The players being directly connected to their TV via HDMI cabling. So, as far as I'm concerned, the fault's external. I had turned off any auto-updating features over the internet, not that /that/ appears to help anything. And these days none of them have internet access any more after I cancelled my ISP for outrageous pricing and pathetic service. I just tether my mobile phone to the PC to do internet activity on it. There is a certain amount of player/TV interaction. Popping a disc in can make the TV automatically switch inputs over to watch it. The TV remote has some control over the player (you have menu navigation and playback controls, at least). Switching the TV off can make the bluray player shutoff, too (though often it has the opposite effect). So I actually favour no interaction between player and TV. The one working fine in the lounge (I know I'm jinxing things by saying this), is a very old and completely dumb Panasonic plasma TV connected to a Sony BDP-S3500 bluray player. The one being a pain in the other room is a much newer Sony LCD set with various internet features that I ignore (the apps go out of date and can't be used any more, and sometimes get remotely removed by an update) with another Sony BDP-S3500 bluray player. And when things go doolally, they really go doolally. Apart from the lengthy refusal to start playing, resetting of preferences, there's the blithe ignoring of any controls you press. It may eject after a fight with the eject button (remote or on the console). But it ignores the stop button, the power off button... Often you have to pull the mains power plug out of the wall to beat the player into submission. Over the years I have really begun to ABSOLUTELY HATE the enforced viewing of pre-movie clips and post-movie copyright notices on discs I've bought. You might have to sit through two minutes of crap before you can watch a movie (production house logos, copyright notices, adverts, animated menus). That annoyance just multiplies when you discover that you've put the wrong disc in out of an album set, and have to sit through it all again with the next disc. The convenience of an audio compact disc where you stuff it in the machine and in the blink of an eye could start playing what you wanted, went right out the window when DVDs came to fruition. Quite frankly, they deserve all the piracy they get. *Only* a pirated disc is actually convenient to play. I've worked in video production over the last few decades, and when DVDs took over from tapes, my productions that I gave clients start playing *their* video when they put the disc in and press play. If they want to do something different, they press the menu button. There were no restrictions imposed on how they wanted to play the disc. And my production house advert/notice was at the end of the recording, and silent (so no having to lunge for a mute or stop button). -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 (yes, this is the output from uname for this PC when I posted) Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
