On 04/22/2014 07:00 AM, Russell Miller wrote:

On Apr 21, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> wrote:

IMO, this is *the cause*, why Fedora has lost against its competitors.


I don't agree.  Fedora doesn't have competitors.

It's competitors are end-user distros: Debian, openSUSE, Mageia, Arch, Mint, Gentoo, Ubuntu etc..


If Fedora is losing against anything, it's losing against itself.
Well, Fedora has lost end-users against the distros mentioned above and is loosing contributing users (contributors) against itself.

And that may well be happening.
But it needn't worry about competitors.
ACK - It should need to worry about itself.

The problem here is not that Fedora is not of value.  It's of plenty of value.  
The problem is
that this value is not understood by people who should know better.  Including, 
in some cases,
its own developers.
Right - IMO, Fedora is in crisis, one primarily made @RH.

Ralf

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