OK.  I think I am not being clear and am using the wrong terms.  For example, 
suppose we launch and MPMD job:

mpirun -np 1 a.out : -np 8 a.out2 : -np 512 a.out3

There are three "instances" invoked here---that's info item(1).  In other 
words, how many executables are started.  Given MPMD mode, the entire set of 
apps belong to the same MPI_COMM_WORLD. So, MPI Task 0 is the MPI rank of the 
process executing a.out, MPI Task 1 is the 1st MPI rank for process(s) 
executing a.out2, and Task 9 is the 1st MPI rank for processes(s) executing 
a.out3.  That's the info in item (2) below.  Finally number of tasks for 
instance 1 is 1, for instance 2 is 8, and for instance 3 is 512---that's item 
(3).

What user-callable interface does OpenMPI provide to get that information in 
a.out, a.out2, and a.out3 during run-time?

Thanks.

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From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [users-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf of 
Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [OMPI users] User Interface for MPMD

I gather you don't want to use the MPI calls to get it? Perhaps it would help 
if we understood a little more about what you are trying to do.

Or maybe we just aren't understanding the term "instance" - e.g., for #1, you 
want to know how many processes are executing in the job, yes?

If that's correct, then the second question doesn't make sense to me - so I'm a 
little lost.


On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Frank Kampe <u2...@cray.com> wrote:

> No.  I am looking for a user-callable function that will return information 
> about the running OpenMPI MPMD program from within the running program---the 
> information listed below in (1) -- (3).
>
> ________________________________________
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> Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:15 AM
> To: Open MPI Users
> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] User Interface for MPMD
>
> I'm actually not sure I understand the question - are you talking about a 
> programmatic API where an application wants to spawn an MPI program? Or an 
> inter-program communication API that wants to tell another program some 
> information? Or an API by which the app can tell MPI "I'm going to spawn N 
> threads"? Or...?
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Gus Correa <g...@ldeo.columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 08/10/2012 11:31 AM, Frank Kampe wrote:
>>> Are there any user level APIs to provide the following information to a 
>>> running OpenMPI MPMD program:
>>>
>>> (1) Number of executable instances
>>>
>>> (2) 1st MPI Task rank of each instance
>>>
>>> (3) Number of MPI Tasks per instance
>>>
>>> Thank You
>>>
>>>
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>> Hi Frank
>> Check 'man mpiexec', the --app file option, maybe also --rankfile.
>> The on process binding at the end may also help.
>> I hope this helps,
>> Gus Correa
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