Ah, I was wrong: it wasn't Adam Moody -- it was Marc Snir's proposal.  It's MPI 
Forum 3.0 ticket #313:

    https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/313

Download the 313.pdf to see the changes for this proposal.  It did pass and 
will be part of MPI-3.0.

Basically, MPI now defines a pre-defined MPI_Info object named MPI_INFO_ENV 
containing the information that you are looking for.

***NOTE: the MPI_INFO_ENV name is different than what is shown in the 313.pdf 
-- see the MPI-3 draft doc document for the final/official text: 
http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/MPI_3.0_main_page.php).



On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote:

> I swear that there was an MPI-3 proposal for just about exactly this issue 
> (because there is currently no MPI-standardized way to get this information).
> 
> I honestly don't remember what happened to this proposal, but I know who made 
> it (Adam Moody, from Livermore).  I've just pinged him off list to find out 
> what happened to that proposal.
> 
> Stay tuned...
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Frank Kampe wrote:
> 
>> OK.  I think I am not being clear and am using the wrong terms.  For 
>> example, suppose we launch and MPMD job:
>> 
>> mpirun -np 1 a.out : -np 8 a.out2 : -np 512 a.out3
>> 
>> There are three "instances" invoked here---that's info item(1).  In other 
>> words, how many executables are started.  Given MPMD mode, the entire set of 
>> apps belong to the same MPI_COMM_WORLD. So, MPI Task 0 is the MPI rank of 
>> the process executing a.out, MPI Task 1 is the 1st MPI rank for process(s) 
>> executing a.out2, and Task 9 is the 1st MPI rank for processes(s) executing 
>> a.out3.  That's the info in item (2) below.  Finally number of tasks for 
>> instance 1 is 1, for instance 2 is 8, and for instance 3 is 512---that's 
>> item (3).
>> 
>> What user-callable interface does OpenMPI provide to get that information in 
>> a.out, a.out2, and a.out3 during run-time?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [users-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf of 
>> Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:00 PM
>> To: Open MPI Users
>> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] User Interface for MPMD
>> 
>> I gather you don't want to use the MPI calls to get it? Perhaps it would 
>> help if we understood a little more about what you are trying to do.
>> 
>> Or maybe we just aren't understanding the term "instance" - e.g., for #1, 
>> you want to know how many processes are executing in the job, yes?
>> 
>> If that's correct, then the second question doesn't make sense to me - so 
>> I'm a little lost.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Frank Kampe <u2...@cray.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> No.  I am looking for a user-callable function that will return information 
>>> about the running OpenMPI MPMD program from within the running 
>>> program---the information listed below in (1) -- (3).
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [users-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf of 
>>> Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:15 AM
>>> To: Open MPI Users
>>> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] User Interface for MPMD
>>> 
>>> I'm actually not sure I understand the question - are you talking about a 
>>> programmatic API where an application wants to spawn an MPI program? Or an 
>>> inter-program communication API that wants to tell another program some 
>>> information? Or an API by which the app can tell MPI "I'm going to spawn N 
>>> threads"? Or...?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Gus Correa <g...@ldeo.columbia.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 08/10/2012 11:31 AM, Frank Kampe wrote:
>>>>> Are there any user level APIs to provide the following information to a 
>>>>> running OpenMPI MPMD program:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) Number of executable instances
>>>>> 
>>>>> (2) 1st MPI Task rank of each instance
>>>>> 
>>>>> (3) Number of MPI Tasks per instance
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank You
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> Hi Frank
>>>> Check 'man mpiexec', the --app file option, maybe also --rankfile.
>>>> The on process binding at the end may also help.
>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>> Gus Correa
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