Hi Ovidiu,

We need to check once again if the mi_xmlrpc_ng can do a perfect replace for mi_xmlrpc - then we can obsolete in a blink of an eye.

Are you aware of any pending issues in terms of backward compatibility ?

PS: 1.12 is replaced by 2.1.0 - this is the version on trunk.

Regards,

Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
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On 25.09.2014 21:39, Ovidiu Sas wrote:
Are we ready to deprecate the mi_xmlrpc module now (for 1.12)?

-ovidiu

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
<bog...@opensips.org> wrote:
Hello all,

Bringing some light here : none of the xmlrpc implementations offer a
structured reply

 From the "deprecation" point of view, we need to be sure:
1) the new mi_xmlrpc-ng module is a perfect substitute to the old one
(providing the same unstructured reply)
2) the new mi_xmlrpc-ng module can also provide a structured reply - this
definitely is something good for the future
3) OpenSIPS CP must be migrated (there are some things that need to be
changed) to be compatible with both modules.

Ovidiu (mi_xmlepc-ng) and Alex (opensips cp) are already heavily working to
achieve the 3 goals above (many thanks to both of them).

As noticed, the old mi_xmlrpc module was not deprecated in 1.11 - there are
small but many things to be done to 100% ensure a smooth transition. Still
this is work on progress and it will be done for next release.

Many thanks,

Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
http://www.opensips-solutions.com

On 19.03.2014 21:55, Brett Nemeroff wrote:

JSON+http sounds fantastic. It's like.. Starting to sound a like a RESTful
server.

I'm pretty sure others will jump on this. I know I would.
-Brett



On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ovidiu Sas <o...@voipembedded.com> wrote:
The new module is built on top of the httpd module which has a
parameter to define the size of the buffer.  If you need large
replies, then you need to adjust the buffer size accordingly.
http://www.opensips.org/html/docs/modules/devel/httpd

That buffer is used by all modules that are sitting on top of the
httpd module, and there's one single process dedicated to all http
requests (no interference with SIP workers).

Regards,
Ovidiu Sas

On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Brett Nemeroff <br...@nemeroff.com>
wrote:
I think there are some other issues with the size of the return data. I
know
for one that the mi_udp method has a buffer size limit. If you hit this
limit I think it very quietly truncates the data. I can't 100% verify
that
since it's been a long time since I've used it.

I believe you can paginate the data, but the problem is that you can't
guarantee consistent results paginating data when the data is changing
constantly. I'm not really sure on the background how this is handled;
maybe
a locked list or something.. but not sure if it'd affect performance at
high
velocity. Seems like something. somewhere would be affected.. either
performance or accuracy.

My point being, care needs to be taken that the method can produce
consistent results; even for large datasets. If data is going to be
truncated or we run out of SHM, there needs to not only be an error log,
but
I think the out put needs to say something as well.

-Brett



On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Dragomir Haralambiev
<goup2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I totally share Brett's feelings! For me dlg_list_ctx over the new
module
causes lots of headaches when dialogs go over 100 or so. Structured
output
would resolve such problems. I am totally in for structured SJON format
too!


2014-03-19 21:07 GMT+02:00 Brett Nemeroff <br...@nemeroff.com>:

I think the only reason for that is backwards compatibility with stuff
written for the other mi interfaces.


Honestly, my parsers for the MI output are ridiculous. It's really
complicated and prone to failure. I'd like to know if others share my
feeling here.

For little things like "dr_reload" I don't really care.

But for MI calls that return large amounts of user data, like
dlg_list_ctx.. Parsing it is kind of ridiculous... Anyone else share
this
feeling?

I personally would love to see it structured in JSON format. :)

-Brett



On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Ovidiu Sas <o...@voipembedded.com>
wrote:
Hello Brett,

It is true that the structured output mode was not implemented in the
new module.
It seems that having the output in one big chunk is the preferred
method in the community.

If there is a real demand for structured output, we can take a look
into
it.

Regards,
Ovidiu Sas


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Brett Nemeroff <br...@nemeroff.com>
wrote:
I'd like to see the new module to be a drop in replacement for the
old
one..

That being said...

I was pretty surprised when I started down the path of the XMLRPC
module
that the reply isn't structured. It was just one big object.

I'd like a selectable option on the module so that it either
operates:
1. Legacy (one big output chunk)
2. Structured, parable for each output node.

Really if we are talking "deprecating" we need to support the old
method
primarily or there will be a lot of broken code out there.

-Brett



On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
<bog...@opensips.org>
wrote:
The whole idea is not to :)

But more tests need to be done.

Regards,

Bogdan-Andrei Iancu
OpenSIPS Founder and Developer
http://www.opensips-solutions.com

On 19.03.2014 17:39, Ali Pey wrote:

Will this affect OpenSIPS-CP?

Regards,
Ali Pey



On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Kneeoh <kne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm all for the deprecation as long as the documentation on the
mi_xmlrpc_ng module is updated to a usable level. I find myself
referencing
the documentation for xmlrpc and hoping that it holds true for
xmlrpc_ng.

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