Hi Adrian.

Thank you very much!

So, my next step will be the MediaProxy Installation in my development machine.


Best regards.


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De: users-boun...@lists.opensips.org <users-boun...@lists.opensips.org> em nome 
de Adrian Georgescu <a...@ag-projects.com>
Enviado: terça-feira, 20 de outubro de 2015 11:59
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Assunto: Re: [OpenSIPS-Users] Does Media_Relay component implies in impossible 
direct media? (Sorry)


On 20 Oct 2015, at 10:20, Rodrigo Pimenta Carvalho 
<pime...@inatel.br<mailto:pime...@inatel.br>> wrote:

Hi Adrian.

Sorry any inconvenience from my poor interpretation. I'm completely new to such 
NAT subjects.

I will consider:

If I don’t use STUN and when using ICE + MediaProxy, media will go directly 
between end-points behind the same NAT. The rest of the calls will go through 
media relay.

So, MediaProxy is not a substitute for a STUN server.

In this case, as I need direct media, I will give up of using MediaProxy and 
use just STUN technology.

STUN does not work, a large percentage of calls will fail by using it alone 
without a media relay. These things are complementary and you must use them all 
to cover 100% of the cases.


Hopefully, now I got the point!

Regards.



RODRIGO PIMENTA CARVALHO
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Enviado: terça-feira, 20 de outubro de 2015 10:47
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Assunto: Re: [OpenSIPS-Users] Does Media_Relay component implies in impossible 
direct media?

Read again what I wrote:

If you don’t use STUN and when using ICE, media will go directly between 
end-points behind the same NAT. The rest of the calls will go through media 
relay.


On 20 Oct 2015, at 07:48, Rodrigo Pimenta Carvalho 
<pime...@inatel.br<mailto:pime...@inatel.br>> wrote:

Ok Adrian.

Thank you too!

But I am still trying to find the answer for the following question, before 
deciding to install MediaProxy:

Can MediaProxy, by itself, without a separated STUN server, provide all 
necessary functionalities to my system get direct media between UACs?



Best regards.


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Ph: +55 35 3471 9200 RAMAL 979


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<users-boun...@lists.opensips.org<mailto:users-boun...@lists.opensips.org>> em 
nome de Adrian Georgescu <a...@ag-projects.com<mailto:a...@ag-projects.com>>
Enviado: segunda-feira, 19 de outubro de 2015 18:54
Para: OpenSIPS users mailling list
Assunto: Re: [OpenSIPS-Users] Does Media_Relay component implies in impossible 
direct media?

If you don’t use STUN and when using ICE, media will go directly between 
end-points behind the same NAT. The rest of the calls will go through media 
relay.

Adrian

On 19 Oct 2015, at 11:03, Nabeel 
<nabeelshik...@gmail.com<mailto:nabeelshik...@gmail.com>> wrote:

ICE in general uses STUN (RFC 5245), however I do not use Mediaproxy myself so 
cannot comment on how it handles STUN.   Someone with Mediaproxy may be able to 
answer.
On 19 Oct 2015 14:41, "Rodrigo Pimenta Carvalho" 
<pime...@inatel.br<mailto:pime...@inatel.br>> wrote:
Ok Nabeel.

In my environment, I intend to have MediaProxy and all clients supporting ICE.
However, in my environment/network doesn't exist a STUN server.

So, my last questions (before I start the MediaProxy installation procedures) 
about this subject are:

1 -  Does MediaProxy work as a STUN server, or just as a TURN server?

2 - Is it always necessary to provide a STUN server separately, even using the 
MediaProxy, if direct media is desired?

3 - Let's suppose I will not provide a separately STUN server, in this case 
will the media always pass through the media relay,?

Thank you again!
Best regards.


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nome de Nabeel <nabeelshik...@gmail.com<mailto:nabeelshik...@gmail.com>>
Enviado: segunda-feira, 19 de outubro de 2015 10:40
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Assunto: Re: [OpenSIPS-Users] Does Media_Relay component implies in impossible 
direct media?

Yes, that is how it should work.  ICE tries to connect directly first before 
trying other methods.  If direct connection fails, then it tries STUN, then 
media relay.  The clients have to support ICE too.

On 19 October 2015 at 11:35, Rodrigo Pimenta Carvalho 
<pime...@inatel.br<mailto:pime...@inatel.br>> wrote:
Hi Nabeel.

Thank you very much for your answer.
If I understood it well, while using MediaProxy, the clients may connect 
directly, but they may not too. ICE will decide it for me and I don't need to 
worry about it.
Tell me if I got it, please.

Best regards.



RODRIGO PIMENTA CARVALHO
Inatel Competence Center
Software
Ph: +55 35 3471 9200<tel:%2B55%2035%203471%209200> RAMAL 979


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De: users-boun...@lists.opensips.org<mailto:users-boun...@lists.opensips.org> 
<users-boun...@lists.opensips.org<mailto:users-boun...@lists.opensips.org>> em 
nome de Nabeel <nabeelshik...@gmail.com<mailto:nabeelshik...@gmail.com>>
Enviado: sábado, 17 de outubro de 2015 19:56
Para: OpenSIPS users mailling list
Assunto: Re: [OpenSIPS-Users] Does Media_Relay component implies in impossible 
direct media?

Rodrigo,
It is the responsibility of ICE to determine in which situation it is best to 
establish a direct connection, versus use of STUN, versus use of a media relay.
We cannot manually decide which clients will connect directly and which will 
not.
On 17 Oct 2015 22:07, "Rodrigo Pimenta Carvalho" 
<pime...@inatel.br<mailto:pime...@inatel.br>> wrote:

Hi.

In my project, UACs should run direct media. RTP packets direct transmitted 
from each other.
However, due to NAT presence, I'm thinking about to use MediaProxy.

In this case, is it possible to get direct media after some UAC negotiations 
passing through the Media_Relay component, or is it impossible? That is, does 
the media will always pass through the Media_Relay host too?

Any hint will be very helpful!
Thanks alot.




RODRIGO PIMENTA CARVALHO
Inatel Competence Center
Software
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