> John D Taylor (ROE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jim Crossley wrote: > > A runoff between the top 2 vote getters listed at > > http://projects.walding.com/powered/ > > > > propaganda or feather? > > +1 propaganda > > Much more striking, and because most non-US citizens probably find the whole > debate baffling! (Though maybe Europeans would have had a similar reaction > to the original poster if the logo had included a swastika)
It seems to me that they ought to have the same reaction to the propaganda logo, if they'd put Hitler into context. The propaganda logo is essentially a Chinese communist flag, though the reversed E looks to me to be a kind of faux Russian. The Chinese government is responsible, in one way or another, for probably around 35 million deaths between 1949 and the present day; whilst many millions of these deaths were attributable not to malice as such but to economic mismanagement resulting in famine. The Soviet regime between 1917 and 1990 is responsible for something in the vicinity of 62 million deaths, though this includes many millions killed during WWII. Hitler, by comparison, managed only about 21 million. That the Chinese and Russian regimes aren't held in the same light as Hitler's regime is a quirk of history rather than due to any particular merits that these regimes may have had; Stalin was a "good guy" -- for a few years, at least -- and managed to perform his acts if not in private then at least within his own borders. As such, the communist Chinese/Soviet imagery seems quite bizarre. These are not regimes that one would wish to deliberately associate with. The logo seems quite perverse. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]