When I asked about the release timeline, I was enquiring whether Maven also has release management documentation like the way some other apache projects Flink or Kafka do. I was not able to find it for maven 4.
Anyways thanks, Marteen for the references. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/2.0+Release https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.7.0 On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:53 PM <mark.yagnatin...@barclays.com.invalid> wrote: > Thank you! I'd seen [4] but not sure if I've seen [2] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maarten Mulders <mthmuld...@apache.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 9:07 AM > To: users@maven.apache.org > Subject: Re: Maven 4.0 release timeline > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside our organisation - > mthmuld...@apache.org Do not click on links, open attachments, or respond > unless you recognize the sender and can validate the content is safe. > On 18/12/2023 21:38, mark.yagnatin...@barclays.com.INVALID wrote: > > I'm not the original asker but this kind of answer tends to annoy me. > > Yes, there is no "official" release timeline, you're obviously not going > to promise anything, all this is (hopefully?) clear, BUT! > > You no doubt have GUESSES. And your guesses are no doubt better than > that of most uninformed outsiders. > > As an outsider, I have no idea what the "status" of maven 4 is, and I > can't even begin to guess how I would find out. > > Should I try to catch up on the last few years of traffic on the > developer email lists? > > Or perhaps the answer can be divined from the issue tracker? If so, how? > > Is it expected that alpha-10 will be the last alpha, and the next build > will be a beta? > > If that is NOT what you expect, then what's the primary hold up? > > Are there major features that have yet to be implemented? > > Or perhaps the features are mostly done but they're still a bit buggy? > > Or perhaps the code quality is pretty solid and you just want to reserve > the right to make backwards incompatible changes, and there's a policy to > not do that after hitting beta? > > > > You get the idea. As an insider, you probably think to yourself > "there's no telling when we'll be done; it depends on a zillion > unpredictable things". > > But as outsiders, we don't even know whether the ETA is a few months or > a few years or a few decades or perhaps just a few weeks. > > > > Sorry if that came off as a bit of a rant :) > The good news is, you don't have to read the mailing list history, nor > dive into the issue tracker, nor read the git history. If you're curious > what Maven 4 will bring, I can highly recommend watching Karl-Heinz' > talk [1]. Don't feel like watching somebody talk? You can read about some > interesting articles and documentation: [2], [3], [4]. > > Hope this helps, > > > Maarten > > > [1] > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMvS6QDE6q6Jf47vc58?h=tZSjeMLRMnL1sHS93b7vt02NnPNvJwK6-ee8iyLMi5Q=&u=https://youtu.be/fHeVMbQNbgQ > [2] > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMFnY8YJe5nk3fmTQtA?h=sQem5P67RYOhsiW9Hm_YeD-PIfsaReOsBbMYvlLdgRk=&u=https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-multiple-modules-4.html > [3] > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1HxHATbJYuZu8nDSJ?h=s87AfscrtMWpDN9FZxBHl_MjXK1i_ohGn2TWRZhFFZ4=&u=https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Build%2Bvs%2BConsumer%2BPOM > [4] > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMqbu7kcREgMq8aNCvW?h=2OV2Xb8OY1yozkosb4XLJzGzmH5eCx0rkkaq0thqbr4=&u=https://www.javaadvent.com/2021/12/from-maven-3-to-maven-5.html > > PS. Most of the above was exactly one Google search away...: "Maven 4" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de.INVALID> > > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 3:18 PM > > To: Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>; Debraj Manna > > <subharaj.ma...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: Maven 4.0 release timeline > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside our organisation - > khmarba...@gmx.de.INVALID Do not click on links, open attachments, or > respond unless you recognize the sender and can validate the content is > safe. > > On 18.12.23 06:27, Debraj Manna wrote: > >> Can someone let me know when Maven 4 is expected to be released? > >> Where can I view its release timelines? > >> > > > > We are an open source project. We don't have a release timeline. > > > > Maven 4.0.0 will be there when it's there. > > > > > > If you want to help testing, there is 4.0.0-alpha-9 version available > (at the moment the VOTE for 4.0.0-alpha-10 is running developers list).. > > > > > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15t5ejZL3AGSyEFA9Aedx?h=ABJzOQGm-e1Zxyu > > IqUZPLWnHHC2LmzcP6V9UINAuTSc=&u=https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMAxL > > r5gxVNoDkDu1jY?h=lGNs3g5AnciCA2HSNIITSI2TzCNDkS7EjB0SRrsw440=&u=https: > > //maven.apache.org/download.cgi > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15t5ZuN3aYarZHREbcFVL?h=f4YJm-aS7T_bpjO > > AtqB_jneksRphxbi0aG911AdXT1E=&u=https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM689 > > Zd5GtxrPpgLcav?h=8GPvTtEcgEXNG4zPkAQ3LoyxGccbyRmjBVaF3LY1HGg=&u=https: > > //maven.apache.org/docs/history.html > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15t5jZkcVmx3PB55gj3na?h=L9e7tA5cT0v2zyk > > QUoinwwWFS6c1VuE5zuM7Lmb8XwE=&u=https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMLcj > > QzvKgCgsbK1p2n?h=jkEzmq-Y4oP85Q2r7HHtDgUjlaVOr5JoAdOAtuuV1_M=&u=https: > > //maven.apache.org/mailing-lists.html > > > > Kind regards > > Karl Heinz Marbaise > > Apache Maven PMC Chairman > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > This message is for information purposes only. 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