When I asked about the release timeline, I was enquiring whether Maven also
has release management documentation like the way some other apache
projects Flink or Kafka do. I was not able to find it for maven 4.

Anyways thanks, Marteen for the references.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/2.0+Release
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.7.0

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:53 PM <mark.yagnatin...@barclays.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Thank you!  I'd seen [4] but not sure if I've seen [2]
>
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> On 18/12/2023 21:38, mark.yagnatin...@barclays.com.INVALID wrote:
> > I'm not the original asker but this kind of answer tends to annoy me.
> > Yes, there is no "official" release timeline, you're obviously not going
> to promise anything, all this is (hopefully?) clear, BUT!
> > You no doubt have GUESSES.  And your guesses are no doubt better than
> that of most uninformed outsiders.
> > As an outsider, I have no idea what the "status" of maven 4 is, and I
> can't even begin to guess how I would find out.
> > Should I try to catch up on the last few years of traffic on the
> developer email lists?
> > Or perhaps the answer can be divined from the issue tracker?  If so, how?
> > Is it expected that alpha-10 will be the last alpha, and the next build
> will be a beta?
> > If that is NOT what you expect, then what's the primary hold up?
> > Are there major features that have yet to be implemented?
> > Or perhaps the features are mostly done but they're still a bit buggy?
> > Or perhaps the code quality is pretty solid and you just want to reserve
> the right to make backwards incompatible changes, and there's a policy to
> not do that after hitting beta?
> >
> > You get the idea.  As an insider, you probably think to yourself
> "there's no telling when we'll be done; it depends on a zillion
> unpredictable things".
> > But as outsiders, we don't even know whether the ETA is a few months or
> a few years or a few decades or perhaps just a few weeks.
> >
> > Sorry if that came off as a bit of a rant :)
> The good news is, you don't have to read the mailing list history, nor
> dive into the issue tracker, nor read the git history. If you're curious
> what Maven 4 will bring, I can highly recommend watching Karl-Heinz'
> talk [1]. Don't feel like watching somebody talk? You can read about some
> interesting articles and documentation: [2], [3], [4].
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
> Maarten
>
>
> [1]
> https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMvS6QDE6q6Jf47vc58?h=tZSjeMLRMnL1sHS93b7vt02NnPNvJwK6-ee8iyLMi5Q=&u=https://youtu.be/fHeVMbQNbgQ
> [2]
> https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMFnY8YJe5nk3fmTQtA?h=sQem5P67RYOhsiW9Hm_YeD-PIfsaReOsBbMYvlLdgRk=&u=https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-multiple-modules-4.html
> [3]
> https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1HxHATbJYuZu8nDSJ?h=s87AfscrtMWpDN9FZxBHl_MjXK1i_ohGn2TWRZhFFZ4=&u=https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Build%2Bvs%2BConsumer%2BPOM
> [4]
> https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMqbu7kcREgMq8aNCvW?h=2OV2Xb8OY1yozkosb4XLJzGzmH5eCx0rkkaq0thqbr4=&u=https://www.javaadvent.com/2021/12/from-maven-3-to-maven-5.html
>
> PS. Most of the above was exactly one Google search away...: "Maven 4"
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de.INVALID>
> > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 3:18 PM
> > To: Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>; Debraj Manna
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> > Subject: Re: Maven 4.0 release timeline
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> > On 18.12.23 06:27, Debraj Manna wrote:
> >> Can someone let me know when Maven 4 is expected to be released?
> >> Where can I view its release timelines?
> >>
> >
> > We are an open source project. We don't have a release timeline.
> >
> > Maven 4.0.0 will be there when it's there.
> >
> >
> > If you want to help testing, there is 4.0.0-alpha-9 version available
> (at the moment the VOTE for 4.0.0-alpha-10 is running developers list)..
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