Well, we have some notes and scratches around like these: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Maven+Ecosystem+Cleanup https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Towards+Doxia+2.0.0+Stack
But these are about Maven "ecosystem" that needed a lot of work to make those up to date. The "battle" with Maven4 API is _not present here_, as we can only work by data that "trickles" to us, or we spend our own energy to look up all the plugins out there... Thanks T On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:55 PM Debraj Manna <subharaj.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > When I asked about the release timeline, I was enquiring whether Maven also > has release management documentation like the way some other apache > projects Flink or Kafka do. I was not able to find it for maven 4. > > Anyways thanks, Marteen for the references. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/2.0+Release > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+3.7.0 > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:53 PM <mark.yagnatin...@barclays.com.invalid> > wrote: > > > Thank you! I'd seen [4] but not sure if I've seen [2] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Maarten Mulders <mthmuld...@apache.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 9:07 AM > > To: users@maven.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Maven 4.0 release timeline > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside our organisation - > > mthmuld...@apache.org Do not click on links, open attachments, or > respond > > unless you recognize the sender and can validate the content is safe. > > On 18/12/2023 21:38, mark.yagnatin...@barclays.com.INVALID wrote: > > > I'm not the original asker but this kind of answer tends to annoy me. > > > Yes, there is no "official" release timeline, you're obviously not > going > > to promise anything, all this is (hopefully?) clear, BUT! > > > You no doubt have GUESSES. And your guesses are no doubt better than > > that of most uninformed outsiders. > > > As an outsider, I have no idea what the "status" of maven 4 is, and I > > can't even begin to guess how I would find out. > > > Should I try to catch up on the last few years of traffic on the > > developer email lists? > > > Or perhaps the answer can be divined from the issue tracker? If so, > how? > > > Is it expected that alpha-10 will be the last alpha, and the next build > > will be a beta? > > > If that is NOT what you expect, then what's the primary hold up? > > > Are there major features that have yet to be implemented? > > > Or perhaps the features are mostly done but they're still a bit buggy? > > > Or perhaps the code quality is pretty solid and you just want to > reserve > > the right to make backwards incompatible changes, and there's a policy to > > not do that after hitting beta? > > > > > > You get the idea. As an insider, you probably think to yourself > > "there's no telling when we'll be done; it depends on a zillion > > unpredictable things". > > > But as outsiders, we don't even know whether the ETA is a few months or > > a few years or a few decades or perhaps just a few weeks. > > > > > > Sorry if that came off as a bit of a rant :) > > The good news is, you don't have to read the mailing list history, nor > > dive into the issue tracker, nor read the git history. If you're curious > > what Maven 4 will bring, I can highly recommend watching Karl-Heinz' > > talk [1]. Don't feel like watching somebody talk? You can read about some > > interesting articles and documentation: [2], [3], [4]. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > Maarten > > > > > > [1] > > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMvS6QDE6q6Jf47vc58?h=tZSjeMLRMnL1sHS93b7vt02NnPNvJwK6-ee8iyLMi5Q=&u=https://youtu.be/fHeVMbQNbgQ > > [2] > > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMFnY8YJe5nk3fmTQtA?h=sQem5P67RYOhsiW9Hm_YeD-PIfsaReOsBbMYvlLdgRk=&u=https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-multiple-modules-4.html > > [3] > > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sM1HxHATbJYuZu8nDSJ?h=s87AfscrtMWpDN9FZxBHl_MjXK1i_ohGn2TWRZhFFZ4=&u=https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Build%2Bvs%2BConsumer%2BPOM > > [4] > > > https://clicktime.symantec.com/15sMqbu7kcREgMq8aNCvW?h=2OV2Xb8OY1yozkosb4XLJzGzmH5eCx0rkkaq0thqbr4=&u=https://www.javaadvent.com/2021/12/from-maven-3-to-maven-5.html > > > > PS. Most of the above was exactly one Google search away...: "Maven 4" > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de.INVALID> > > > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 3:18 PM > > > To: Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>; Debraj Manna > > > <subharaj.ma...@gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: Maven 4.0 release timeline > > > > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside our organisation - > > khmarba...@gmx.de.INVALID Do not click on links, open attachments, or > > respond unless you recognize the sender and can validate the content is > > safe. > > > On 18.12.23 06:27, Debraj Manna wrote: > > >> Can someone let me know when Maven 4 is expected to be released? > > >> Where can I view its release timelines? > > >> > > > > > > We are an open source project. 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