> The fact no one wants to go through the hazzle of setting up toolchains doesn't count for me.
Have you tried using it? There are still rough edges to be found and corrected, particularly for older JDK support. I'm still waiting for a release with https://github.com/apache/maven-toolchains-plugin/issues/113 in it. Also, a reminder that users participating on the mailing list are a tiny fraction of the actual user population. One cannot know what all the users requirements are. It's reasonable to assume that some are stuck on JDK8 for good reason, and 'JDK25 can build JDK8 conforming classfiles' is not a solution. I continue to be surprised by what I discover in the wild, e.g. 'Why are you running Maven 3.5.4?', 'Why are all your plugins 2.X versions?'. Just getting folks to realize that upgrading the core tool does not mean they have a 'Maven 3 build'. If Surefire stops working on JDK8, it should be a major version bump, just for clarity.
