If someone is stuck on Maven 3.5.x for one or the other reason, they won't be 
able to upgrade surefire anyway... They haven't been able to update for at 
least a year.

They can just keep their setup.

I see no reason why this would stop us from requiring Java 9+ in a later 
version of surefire.

- Ben


On 12 February 2026 01:39:11 CET, Greg Chabala <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The fact no one wants to go through the hazzle of setting up toolchains
>doesn't count for me.
>
>Have you tried using it? There are still rough edges to be found and
>corrected, particularly for older JDK support.
>
>I'm still waiting for a release with
>https://github.com/apache/maven-toolchains-plugin/issues/113 in it.
>
>Also, a reminder that users participating on the mailing list are a tiny
>fraction of the actual user population. One cannot know what all the users
>requirements are. It's reasonable to assume that some are stuck on JDK8 for
>good reason, and 'JDK25 can build JDK8 conforming classfiles' is not a
>solution.
>
>I continue to be surprised by what I discover in the wild, e.g. 'Why are
>you running Maven 3.5.4?', 'Why are all your plugins 2.X versions?'. Just
>getting folks to realize that upgrading the core tool does not mean they
>have a 'Maven 3 build'.
>
>If Surefire stops working on JDK8, it should be a major version bump, just
>for clarity.

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