Rereading this email I sent earlier on today, I realize that my tone may appear a bit harsh, unnecessarily. Please all accept my apologies.
I would also like to apologize for the "most maven core committers have already switched to m2 and are not helping much on m1". This is an unnecessary "attack" on m2 committers. I shouldn't have said that, my tongue slipped... Thanks -Vincent > -----Original Message----- > From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: samedi 30 avril 2005 09:38 > To: 'Maven Users List' > Subject: RE: Timeline for release 1.1 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Arik Kfir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: samedi 30 avril 2005 04:00 > > To: Maven Users List > > Subject: Re: Timeline for release 1.1 > > > > Just wondering, is there a point in getting a 1.1 out, with m2 coming in > > three-four months? > > > > I, for one, would prefer that efforts go into making m2 better, faster, > > leaner, meaner rather than into another m1 release, that probably won't > > live too much after m2 is released...and don't forget the cost > > maintaining one or two bug fix releases for 1.1 so... > > You're kidding of course? I'm totally -1 to your idea. M2 is already a > pain in the neck for everyone already using Maven that it is a duty for > Maven to support as much as possible its existing users that it has > attracted for the past 3 years. > > Also I think you don't imagine the effort there is for m2 to come even > close to m1 in term of plugins. It's not only a question of number of > plugins but also a question of the features and details each plugin has. > > Arik, you ay not realize but Maven is not a small and unknown open source > project and it is being used in lots of major businesses. Migrating a m1 > build to a m2 build is something that is far from being automated and it > will not happen before several years in lots of places. You want to keep > supporting these people and fix m1 bugs, etc. > > Now all that said, you're already right (unfortunately): most maven core > committers have already switched to m2 and are not helping much on m1. I > bless Brett for doing so. He's doing a lot of good to Maven as a whole by > continuing to support m1. Gladly we also have some m1 users that are m1 > plugin committers and that are continuing to improve/fix the existing > plugins. > > Personally I would like to see as much refactorings as possible to bring > m1 as close as possible to m2 to make it an easier migration in the > future. This is what Brett has started by bringing the Model and Wagon to > m1. > > I would like to see m1 plugins being refactored into plugins that can work > both in m1 and m2 (I think that ought to be possible in several cases but > we would probably need to develop a small m1 adapter layer). Alternatively > m2 plugins could be made to work in m1 by adding this adapter layer. I'm > still unsure whether this is possible but I've started experimenting with > it. > > All that said, I'm also very excited to use m2. I have started to migrate > my existing open source projects to m1 and I can do that because these > projects are business-bound. I've also seen some limitations that > currently exist in m2 and that will hopefully be fixed soon. > > Thanks > -Vincent, answering for all existing business users of m1 ;-) > > > > > > > Brett Porter wrote: > > > > >There are no plans at the moment. Since it is incorporating many of > > >the components from Maven 2 while remaining backwards compatible, the > > >current effort is going into Maven2. > > > > > >- Brett > > > > > >On 4/29/05, Gisbert Amm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Hi Maveners, > > >> > > >>can you already say when release 1.1 will be ready? > > >> > > >>Regards, > > >>Gisbert > > >> > > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
