Well, I compiled NetBeans on slower systems. I suspect even a spinning
hard drive beats an SD card and even a 'weak' system becomes quite
good for work with an SSD.

If I were to buy some ARM gadgets nowadays I would also play with the
ROCKPro64 from https://www.pine64.org

--emi

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:43 PM John G. Weed <nonsequi...@fastmail.com> wrote:
>
> I will try to build one without the JDK 8 and see what happens; if it  works, 
> I will update my instructions. As for your comment "You could never compile 
> something heavy on that thing..." I guess that depends on what you mean by 
> heavy. The RPi4 is the only hardware platform, given it's physical size, that 
> met our performance metrics--we've been waiting a long time for this 
> capability. We've tried the BeagleBone Black and some others, but wold not 
> run the Ubuntu operating system. And as I elluded to, this was important.
>
> Thank you for your inputs
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, at 21:34, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > I'm not entirely certain why you installed Java 8 from Oracle when you
> > also have JDK 11 in the repository and NetBeans runs with Java 11.
> >
> > The RPi is a capable machine, only slow part is the IO... You could
> > never compile something heavy on that thing although in the past you
> > would have compiled many things on a quad core / 4GB machine.
> >
> > --emi
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:26 PM John G. Weed <nonsequi...@fastmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > Forgive me if this needs to be sent via some other venue, but since this 
> > > has been such a pain in the butt to find an answer to, I thought I'd 
> > > write out the steps I followed to build a Raspberry Pi 4B (4GB) running 
> > > the Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS operating system, with the xubuntu desktop, for 
> > > the purpose of running the NetBeans 11.2 IDE with (most importantly) 
> > > support for the NetBeans 8.2 C/C++ plugin--one long run-on sentence.
> > >
> > > Our software baseline is currently running on some pretty hefty HP 
> > > DL-380s (the Enterprise version), as well as some smaller tactical units. 
> > > But we were missing a portable, pocket version platform. I wanted to be 
> > > able to use not only the same operating system (Ubuntu 18.04), but the 
> > > same IDE as well. This would dramatically decrease any cross platform 
> > > maintenance  issues. The following steps make this entirely possible. 
> > > Many thanks to the folks who provided valuable suggestions.
> > >
> > > The following are the steps required to build a Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS server 
> > > based on the Raspberry Pi 4B (4GB) platform supporting the Apache 
> > > NetBeans 11.2 IDE with the NetBeans 8.2 C/C++ plugin. If you are already 
> > > well versed in Ubuntu and Raspberry Pi you may find the instructions a 
> > > tad verbose. However, in order to reach the widest possible audience, 
> > > I’ve taken the time to illustrate in excruciating detail. Please forward 
> > > any changes or correction to nonsequi...@fastmail.com.
> > >
> > > Required:
> > >
> > > Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB
> > >
> > > HDMI monitor
> > >
> > > USB Keyboard and mouse
> > >
> > > USB power supply
> > >
> > > 16GB MicroSD
> > >
> > > Windows 10 or equivalent PC (to burn Ubuntu image to MicroSD card)
> > >
> > > Windows PC Steps:
> > >
> > > Wipe-clean (delete all exiting partitions) and format the 16GB MicroSD 
> > > card using MiniTool Partition Wizard or equivalent
> > >
> > > Download file ubuntu-18.04.4-preinstalled-server-arm64+raspi3.img from 
> > > site https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
> > >
> > > Using Win32 Disk Imager or equivalent, write the 
> > > ubuntu-18.04.4-preinstalled-server-arm64+raspi3.img to the MicroSD card.
> > >
> > > Raspberry PI 4B (RPi4):
> > >
> > > With power off, connect monitor, keyboard and mouse to the RPi4
> > >
> > > Insert imaged MicroSD card into the RPi4 and power up
> > >
> > > Login using username "ubuntu" and password "ubuntu"
> > >
> > > Respond to the change password request as appropriate and login
> > >
> > > Update configuration sources by entering: sudo apt-get update
> > >
> > > Install xubuntu desktop environment by entering: sudo apt-get install 
> > > xubuntu-desktop
> > >
> > > Login to RPi4 using the changed password
> > >
> > > Run the Software Updater application, if it doesn’t start automatically, 
> > > to update the various operating ystem components before continuing 
> > > further; this include any requested reboots
> > >
> > > Using the Firefox browser, download file 
> > > jdk-8u241-linux-arm64-vfp-hflt.tar.gz from site URL 
> > > https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/javase-jdk8-downloads.html
> > >
> > > Bring up a Terminal window and enter the following commands to expand and 
> > > install the java components necessary to run NetBeans-11.2:
> > >
> > > cd Downloads
> > >
> > > sudo mkdir /usr/lib/jvm
> > >
> > > sudo tar xvf jdk-8u241-linux-arm64-vfp-hflt.tar.gz --directory 
> > > /usr/lib/jvm/
> > >
> > > /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_241/bin/java -version
> > >
> > > /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_241/bin/javac -version
> > >
> > > sudo apt-get install openjdk-11-jdk
> > >
> > > java -version
> > >
> > > sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java 
> > > /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_241/bin/java 1
> > >
> > > sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/javac javac 
> > > /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_241/bin/javac 1
> > >
> > > sudo update-alternatives --config java
> > >
> > > sudo update-alternatives --config javac
> > >
> > > Using the same Terminal window, enter the following command to baseline 
> > > the NetBeans dependencies:
> > >
> > > sudo apt-get install g++
> > >
> > > sudo apt-get make
> > >
> > > Using the same Firefox browser, download file 
> > > Apache-NetBeans-11.2-bin-linux-x64.sh, to the Downloads directory, from 
> > > site URL 
> > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/netbeans/netbeans/11.2/Apache-NetBeans-11.2-bin-linux-x64.sh
> > >
> > > From the Terminal window, enter the following to begin the installation 
> > > of the NetBeans 11.2 application:
> > >
> > > sudo chmod +x Apache-NetBeans-11.2-bin-linux-x64.sh
> > >
> > > sudo ./Apache-NetBeans-11.2-bin-linux-x64.sh
> > >
> > > Note: The installation procedure will prompt for the location of the JDK 
> > > for the Appache NetBeans IDE:… Select the 
> > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.11.0-openjdk-arm64
> > >
> > > When the installation procedure completes, which may or may not require a 
> > > restart, start the NetBeans 11.2 application from the start menu, path 
> > > Whisker Menu→Development→Apache NetBeans 11.2 IDE, and execute the 
> > > following to setup NetBeans 8.2 C++ support:
> > >
> > > Bring up the Plugins Settings menu by following Tools→Plugins→Settings
> > >
> > > Under the Configuration of Update Centers, check the NetBeans 8.2 Plugin 
> > > Portal box
> > >
> > > Under the Automatically Check for Updates drop-down menu select Every 
> > > Startup
> > >
> > > Close the Plugins window and restart the NetBeans application
> > >
> > > When the application restarts, bring up the Available Plugins menu by 
> > > following Tools→Plugins→Available Plugins
> > >
> > > Check the box for C/C++
> > >
> > > Click the Install button and proceed with the installation
> > >
> > > Once again close the Plugins window and restart the NetBeans application
> > >
> > > For my particular application, I did the following to verify the 
> > > installation; simple but effective:
> > >
> > > Start the Apache NetBeans 11.2 IDE application
> > >
> > > File→New Project→C/C++→C/C++ Application->Next >
> > >
> > > Leave all of the defaults, with the exception of changing version to 
> > > C++14->Finish
> > >
> > > To compile press Fn/F11
> > >
> > >
> > > Note: This configuration compiled slightly more than 100,000 lines of 
> > > code in about 28 seconds, a coarse estimate. Not too bad.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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