Indeed, I think the approach Emilian suggests is the way to go. And, indeed, if you don't want to or have the time to move to Maven of Gradle, then a lot of modern options start closing off to you.
But, on a different level, for a lot of users of NetBeans, the chickens have come home to roost: a free and open source project, such as NetBeans, should never simply have been 'used', it should always have been invested in. For example, simply filing a bug and hoping someone will turn up to fix it has never been the way open source is meant to work. Nothing is ever free -- either you spend time (in understanding how NetBeans works, for example) or money (in paying JetBrains, for example, and then you have engineers creating IntelliJ IDEA for you). Not spending anything at all and hoping things will work out for you has never been a sustainable approach. Gjj On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 4:24 PM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > Go and pick Azul Zulu' JDK FX package which comes bundles with JavaFX: > > https://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu-community/?&architecture=x86-64-bit&package=jdk-fx > > I used it for an older Platform app where I don't feel like > configuring the FX mumbo jumbo. > > I doubt anybody can make a magic transition tools since there's too > much people can customize... > > Given the resources available, things are as they are. They could > always be better. > > --emi > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:16 PM Paul Szudzik <pszud...@throwarock.com> > wrote: > > > > I have been a NetBeans user since inception. I am retired now, but > when I worked, I was one of the few people in my company that was an > advocate of NetBeans, and used it instead of the company line, Eclipse > product. > > > > Retired now for 10+ years, I used NetBeans to develop my products, > and really getting involved in JavaFX big time. I love the cross platform > capability, and use it on both Ubuntu and Windows. Raspberry Pi, no > problem. Windows, no problem. I loved it. Then boom, Oracle takes JavaFX > out of the mix, and NetBeans and I start having major problems. It gets > harder and harder to use NetBeans with it’s incompatibility with JavaFX > without going through hoops every single time we upgrade. I have a ton of > projects that are a major pain to go back to without having to dance on a > high wire to get to work. And I am still not sure I can do this anymore. > > > > I have been a computer programmer, designer and architect for well > over 53+ years. I have see many systems come and go, many IDE rise and > fall, many languages surface and crash. The move to Maven is beyond my > scope now. I want to program, not to have to regenerate and rehash my > build system every release. I have tried to move over to 11, and mostly > failed. I have too many modules and programs in play to hack this out. > > > > It would have been great if NetBeans had a seamless transition , > built in conversions for old projects to current format. Seriously, I > would love to be on that train. But nope, it seems too much handholding > and dancing. I currently have a half dozen active Beta’s that are stuck > in a NetBeans 8.1.x / Java 8 scenario, that I want to port into NetBeans > 11.3 / Java 13+ area, but really don’t believe that it is 1: Easy, 2: > Lasting, 3: Enduring more than another release. > > > > I still have reported bugs > 5 years old that are not resolved. > > > > I see streams of notes that are asking questions about > compatibility. ( The latest straw is the Ant image ... ) I see how once > the major players in NetBeans get on a wagon, the trail off is almost > impossible. If you’re new to NetBeans, perhaps this is a good trend. If > you have dealt with NetBeans as long as I have.. it becomes more than just > an annoyance. It almost easier to find another IDE to settle in on, as the > amount of work to transfer 100+ projects, probably more, from old NetBeans > to new NetBeans is formidable. > > > > Maybe a 3rd party can produce a product that 100% transfer old > projects to Maven.. I’d rather develop and code than mess around with > trying to make things move up the NetBeans chain anymore.. Coding is fun, > transitioning is not. I am 100% committed to JavaFX, I like the layouts, I > like what Gluon has done, I like the look and feel. > > > > NetBeans 8 –> NetBeans 11+ –> convert ... > > > > I would normally apologize for my rant, but nope. I feel that I am > now progressing backwards... > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
