So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires
casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and
possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show
consideration to the casual user and provide a reveal code feature which
is cleaner / more direct and does not have potential of creating conflicts.
Compared to using wysiwyg web page creator without ability to view
code. Styles does nothing to correct skewed page; however, viewing the
codes is a very helpful tool.
Jack
mt wrote:
Sorry if there is some confusion here, as I for one never meant to
criticise styles - which I use extensively, and generally find useful.
There are however situations where styles might not help. For example,
when troubleshooting document formatting problems such as page or
section options, or when special (manual) character formatting has
been applied to styled paragraphs: this is where "reveal codes" can
come in handy. Also, typically, "Reveal codes" was used by someone
other than the original author... funny this has never been mentioned,
given that it was the main reason why we had to use "Reveal codes"
back when WordPerfect was the standard!
Anyhow, a (very basic) example of how this could be obtained is in the
"Write/Edit Post" interface in WordPress, with its two tabs (Visual |
Text). I have no idea whether this is possible in OO - but it is my
understanding that something like that is what people asking for
"Reveal codes" might find useful.
As WordPress demonstrates and Richard Detwiler already suggested,
these two ways of looking at a written page are not necessarily
mutually exclusive. So if they are in OO, maybe this is what needs to
be explained to us users, who do not understand, nor want to know,
about the "inner workings" of the program.
Lastly, and by the by: I believe the only way a programmer can "take
the user's perspective" is to listen to end users themselves.
Ideally... without expecting them to be computer literate or (worse)
accusing them to not put in the necessary time/effort to learn how to
use the program.
Thank you for suggesting ways how we might be able to help, as end (&
dumb? :-) users.
marina
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