Meenie1 wrote:
> I learned to use computer in the age of dinosaurs where you had to sit
...
> I don't have time to run to 20 different sources trying to puzzle out
> bits and pieces of why OO works or doesn't. and I did use Help. And
> you're right, the answer was there but I missed it because OO divided
> up Avery Labels into 3 sections instead of putting it all into one
> simple list, in numerical order where it is easy to find the one you
> need. (as microsoft does, why change a good thing?)
> I do apologize if my asking the list for help interrupted your day.
> But I do have a suggestion for you that may make your day easier -
> when you find a post that you feel is beneath the right to be posted
> - hit DELETE. I've found it works amazingly well.
> In fact, I think I'll go use it right now! <wink>
Well, if you found my message condescending or offensive, I apologize as
that wasn't my intent. Sometimes it's next to impossible to guess who
one's audience is when responding to questions so occasionally I'll take
a very basic approach and every now and then provide samples or
descriptions of my own experiences to hopefully add a bit of a feeling
about where I'm coming from and trying to take the OP to. And as you
noticed I can have a sarcastic bent, too<g>.
I DO however say what I mean, and mean what I say, which does put
some people off but it seldom leaves anyone not knowing where I stand.
I much prefer people who do the same and it seems you may be one of
them, except you took offense at the way I presented things rather than
understanding it. I may react to things I do that annoy someone, but
I'll never react to anyone reacting to me personally because it's of no
value or consequence in the overall scheme of things.
So basically I guess I'd say, if you feel you don't like my attitude
or are offended by anything I've said, I'd say either don't read posts
you know that may be offensive to you, and if you're offended by
something, from anyone actually, ignore it or possibly ask why if the
person seems to be unreasonable. Many are not, but I always try to be
amenable and will respond unless I think it's a troll. Occasionally
I'll respond once, very occsainally twice, to trolls just for the
entertainment value, but the majority of the time I'd rather just ignore
them and let them start to starve asap.
Trumpet is certainly a "way back", eh? Woof! The world's come a long
ways since then! I've only been in the "arena" since the early 60's but
the beginnings of the 'net were a great thing. The past can be fun to
remember and wonder about, but I don't think I want to play one-up
manship right now, fun as it may be, but just one maybe: My earlist
real-world experience came with an IMSAI 8080 and having to play with
switches & steppers to get it to boot. Then when EPROMs became
available, my interest really bloomed. Remember those absolutely HUGE
floppies with all of 90k of data per? Wow! <g> When we got our fist
9" floppy drive we were really getting 'tekinically' involved<g>!
Oh, and more importantly, it seemed to help meenie, which after all was
the ultimate goal.
Cheers,
Twayne
>
> Web Kracked wrote:
>> Twayne wrote:
>>> Meenie1 wrote:
>>>>> All I want to do is print some return address labels and they
>>>>> aren't there.
>>>> this is the simple Avery 8167 (5267) return address labels. Why
>>>> aren't the basics in the write thing? :(
>>>> The more I use Open Office the more I dream of MS Office. It
>>>> doesn't seem to be worth the extra effort to do ANY little thing.
>>>> !!
>>>
>>> It's there:
>>> --File: New; Labels; choose Labels tab if not already selected,
>>> --Under Brand, select Avery Letter Size if you have letter size
>>> lable sheets or A4 if you have A4 size label sheets.
>>> --Under Type, choose 8167 (Inkjet Return Address).
>>>
>>> Continue as needs dictate from there.
>>>
>>> If you like MSOffice better, then use MSOffice. But Writer handles
>>> it just fine if you take the time to read the dialogs and what's in
>>> them. The major problem with computers is, they do what we TELL them
>>> to do, not what we MEANT to do!
>>> In the future, also try Help: it's described rather well there
>>> too. Step by step even. Every once in awhile, people should
>>> actually try to help themselves instead of expecting hand holding
>>> for every little thing.
>>> Personally, I try to eek out from the dialogs what I want and if
>>> if I can't, I go to Help, then Google, often then to the OOo FAQs
>>> and/or online help files, and then if I still can't find it, I'll
>>> ask on this group. But I don't come here first: I assume people
>>> here have better things to do than listen to my groaning about how
>>> much better MSO is and hold my hand to tell me where the "anykey" is
>>> located. Sometimes it's just a matter of unlearning old habits and
>>> realizing OOo is NOT Word. What it is, is a very "low priced",
>>> excellent version of a suite of files similar to but not the same
>>> as, microsoft office. It even does quite a few things MS office
>>> can't do; if I just take the time to figure it out, like I did with
>>> Word, way back when, and WordStar before that, and VI before that,
>>> and Edlin before that. And then there were the VAX machines, and
>>> Tymnet, and ...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Twayne
>>>
>>
>> I did some clear labels the other day. OOo works great
>> when you need to do them. MS Word "required" me to go to
>> Avery and download their wizard to do Avery labels. It is
>> nice that OOo has them built in. Of course, you can always
>> go to Avery and download templates instead. The wizard works
>> only with Word, but between the OOo built in labels and the
>> templates that Avery has, you are set for almost every label
>> needs.
>>
>> I know what Twayne is talking about, when he states to just
>> figure it out. I used PC-Write, then WordPerfect, the Word,
>> now OpenOffice.org. I had to figure things out myself for
>> most of all the things I did/do with these word processors.
>> I even had to write an editing program for RPG II on PDP/11 and
>> VAX machines that was easier to use than the junk we were to
>> use. I had to figure a lot of things out myself. BUT no more
>> with this list. It is not easy for my eyes to read an ebook
>> on this laptop, so manuals tend not to be read. This list
>> is great for easy (mostly) ways to do things. Thanks guys/gals
>> for that.
>>
>> I still use may old/older software, since I already know how
>> to do my work using them. That, it seems to me, is one of the
>> biggest problems to get people to use OOo. I hate it when
>> I am told you are required to use "such and such" software to
>> do the work. The required software usually cost big money,
>> when most people cannot afford it. Just like colleges use to
>> require specific Apple laptops, or now a Blackberry, or other
>> thing.
>>
>> Colleges require Word/office when the students need only a
>> word processor to do the work. That is the real joke.
>>
>> Well, enough of that.
>>
>> As I said, OOo makes labels easy. Then Avery makes templates
>> for all their labels that I have ever used or seen. So either
>> way, OOo can do the work easier, for me, than Word ever did.
>>
>>
>> Tim L.
>> retire, and tired of MS
>> and missing my wife, now that she is in a nursing facility.
>>
>>
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