2009/10/14 Twayne <[email protected]> > Hi Harold, > > I "paricipate" via the gmane.org newsgroup. Please keep that in mind as > you read my questions. > I am only subscribed to this newsgroup server and not to the actual > list, and then only a few select newsgroups. I prefer to choose my > querants as opposed to receiving them en-masse, so to speak. >
Your message *seems* to come from an e-mail address ([email protected]) that *is* subscribed to this *list* ([email protected]). I don't know why this should be the case, given that you say you're not subscribed to it. > You personally often "forward" to "unsubscribed OP" which is a great, > unselfish thing to do. I see it happen quite often and I see other > places where I suspect it should happen. Perhaps you could square us > away on this one more time: > > -- Example: Josh Swan posted about "Wrong software downloaded" on > 10-12-09. > How did you know he was unsubscribed? > The trigger is as follows. The "querant" (not in my dictionary, but probably should be as it's rather useful) is *not* subscribed [to this list] *if and only if* the mail message contains the header Delivered-To: moderator for [email protected] If the message does not contain this header then the sender is subscribed. In other words, messages from non-subscribed querants, and only those messages, are delivered to the moderator who then may or may not release them to the list. As far as I know there is no other reliable indicator. I read this list in two different ways - either via Thunderbird or via Firefox. Thunderbird allows me to set up a filter to highlight messages having the relevant header so it's easy to identify them. Firefox doesn't but Gmail (which is what I use) lets one examine the headers manually. So using Thunderbrd is less effort although the copy/paste (see below) is the same for both. > Where do you forward the response to? Is it [email protected]? > I copy the querant's e-mail address from his/her message, hit the Reply button (so my reply is going to be sent to [email protected]) and then paste the copied e-mail address into the To: or cc: list of my reply. Thus my reply is sent to the list *and* to the querant's personal e-mail address. In this way (a) the querant is sure to get a copy and (b) other list readers can easily see that s/he will. > When you are so courteous as to forward for a poster, perhaps if > you mentioned the address you forwarded to in your post a few times, > many of us might start to catch on and begin to do the same thing. > Flattery will get you anywhere ;-) > > -- I thought that would only have to be done for the "moderated" tags > on the posts but apparently not; what exactly IS the trigger to realize > the querant isn't going to see the response? > > I've actually taken a pass on some posts I could have responded to where > no one else did, because I knew the person wouldn't get the post, so I > just let it go by. That's not really a very good attitude when the > purpose is to assist people who need it. > > Also, in your sig, you have "Please reply *only* to > [email protected]". Is that meant for when resonding to YOU? Or > what? Is the gmane.org the wrong place to address you? > My sig is merely there to prevent people replying to my personal e-mail address rather than to the list. I use a special e-mail address for this list and any messages addressed to it personally just get junked; I never even examine them. I'm not an expert on Gmane but I *think* it merely takes e-mail messages from the list and transforms them into Usenet format (NNTP*) where they can be read via a News reader. In the other direction, Gmane takes your Usenet posts, transforms them into e-mail format (SMTP*) and sends them to this list. Thus, when you participate via Gmane, your e-mail address *must* be subscribed to Gmane but doesn't have to be subscribed to anything else. * SMTP and NNTP are specifications (RFCs) that define how messages are formatted - headers, legal character sets and so on - as well as the port numbers and "conversational protocols" over which data transmission takes place. They are very different animals although many programs (Thunderbird, Outlook Express, ...) support both within the one framework and with largely the same UI. > I'm confused! > HTH :-) > > Regards, > > Twayne` > > -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to [email protected]
