Barbara and Andy replied: [...] > >> > >> I want to place a graphic on the 'paper', at the very bottom, > >> full-width (edge-to-edge... would bleed if the printer allowed). > >> > >> I want it to appear on every page, faded to about 30%. > >> > >> I want it to not interfere in any way with text or graphics on my > >> working page (in the text area). > >> Insert > Picture > from file doesn't seem to do that. > >> > >> Format > Page > Background > [graphic tab] won't let me place the > >> imported graphic outside the page margins. It insists on > putting it > >> UP from the bottom and IN from the sides of the sheet of paper > >> background. I can't see any options or selections to get > past this. > >> What is the procedure to impose what English speakers would really > >> recognize as a "watermark" and not just "some graphic, > sorta in back, > >> inside the margins" ?? > >> > >> Thanks, > > > > Kevin, > > > > Have you tried using the "Footer" for what you describe? > Under Format > > -> Page -> Footer -> More there is an option to use a background > > graphic in the footer region. It does not seem to allow > the "bleed" > > that your asking for but there may be other options that > you can try. > > > > Andy > > I think as long as the graphic's anchor is in the header or > footer, the > graphic itself can be dragged wherever you want it.
I'll start with Andy's suggestion and then Barbara's comment. It ends up with the same choice dialog (defaults to a background color selection, but with option to choose "Graphic" instead). Then, the browse-to-graphic and position-graphic sub-dialog is the same as for Format > Page > Background I browse to my file and select it, then I have the positioning option. The preview shows my graphic on the page, about 1/5 up from the bottom. Using the "Type" selector, I choose "Position" and the locator tool comes alive. I click the 'handle' dot at bottom-center or bottom-left... nothing at all happens in the preview. In fact, clicking ANY of the position dots has no effect on the position of the thumbnail graphic in the preview. The other two options under "Type" on the "Page Style" dialog are "Area" and "Tile". They produce no visible change in the preview. In all three cases, "Position", "Area", or "Tile", the effect upon closing the dialogs is the same. The graphic appears on my page... but inside the margins. I want it outside/below the margins -- it would /o/v/e/r/l/a/p/... er... underlap the text area (in the margins) of the page, but only incidentally, and it should be entirely unconnected and unaffected by anything in my document content. Sorta like a real watermark, which is an attribute of the paper that you print on, and not of your document. I asked this a couple of years ago, and have been using the header (possibly at Barbara's suggestion back then?? ), but it does _not_ isolate the "watermark" graphic. When body text flows on top of the "header" image, it looks fine until I start to do things in the document (sometimes just scrolling, or having an OOo dialog box open in that area. The text becomes invisible, as though obscured by the graphic. I cannot select text in that area with the mouse. I can insert the cursor with the mouse, but all text selection in the area of that header/footer graphic (which takes up roughly the bottom third of the page) must be done via the arrow keys. As often as not, the text remains invisible while I'm selecting, so all I see is the highlight block in the shape of the text... so I'm kinda guessing when I do a selection that way. I can click the graphic to select it, and then I can "Format > Arrange > Send to back" all day long. The result is always the same. The selected graphic goes 'under' the text, making that portion of text visible... until I de-select the graphic, at which point it obscures the text again. As I said, I've been living with this for a couple of years, but this document (and several like it) are updated frequently, so I wrestle with this same nonsense just about weekly. It's getting old. The 'obvious' solution is a real watermark function that would let the graphic just live on the underlying workspace/paper and not be part of the working portion of the document. Before you ask, "Wrap" is set to "Through" - though I've tried other options, which made things worse. On that same "Wrap" tab, under Options, the "In background" box is checked (yes, I tried it un-checked too, just to see... no joy). The documents are not long or complicated (no ToCs, no cross-references, etc.) so I'm going to try experimenting with my new toy, Adobe InDesign. Perhaps it will give me less grief. Thanks, - Kevin The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org