On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 15:40 -0400, Matt Needles wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 12:03 -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:
> > John W. Kennedy typed the following on 7/2/2006 11:22 AM:
> > > Pete Holsberg wrote:
> > >> G. Roderick Singleton typed the following on 7/2/2006 7:49 AM:
> > >>> On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 05:35 -0400, Lars D. Noodén wrote:
> > >>>> I looked at the install instructions and the OOo FAQ and see no 
> > >>>> explicit description of when one should install the binary including 
> > >>>> JRE and when one should install the binary without JRE.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> When should one choose the one over the other?  In a nutshell, what's 
> > >>>> the difference? (and can we get it put in the FAQ?)
> > >>>>
> > >>> See http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/index.html . In 
> > >>> particular 
> > >>> http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/021.html 
> > >> "For example, with 1.1 you will not be able to use the XSLT 
> > >> functionality, JDBC, applets, form generators, and Java Application 
> > >> Programming Interfaces (APIs) for 3rd party modules, if no Java is 
> > >> installed."
> > >>
> > >> For example? Not exactly definitive!
> > >>
> > >> What is XSLT functionality?
> > >> JBDC?
> > >> Which applets?
> > >>
> > >>> http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/022.html
> > >> "You can download Java from http://www.java.com  or http://java.sun.com.";
> > >>
> > >>> http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/023.html
> > >> "Which version of Java do I need?"
> > >>
> > >>> http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/024.html
> > >> Not at all applicable.
> > >>
> > >>> http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/025.html
> > >> "Can I install Java after I install OpenOffice.org?"
> > >>
> > >> There has to be a simple answer to the question, "Do I need to download 
> > >> JRE for OOo?"
> > > 
> > > There is no real simple answer, because the situation isn't simple.
> > > 
> > > The pragmatic simple answer is, "If you don't have, or know whether you 
> > > have, a JRE, get the version that contains one."
> > > 
> > > For some people, that will the /wrong/ answer, but it will be "mostly 
> > > harmless".
> > 
> > So why not it a no-brainer and offer only the "with JRE" version? 
> > I know -- because of the people with dial-up. Maybe they should 
> > have a footnote or something that directs them to a CD.
> > 
> I have a better (?) suggestion: why not do what M$ does?  Leave it out,
> but when the user tries to use a part of the app that needs it, start
> the process of downloading and installing the JRE. That will make OOo as
> small as possible for the initial download, with the possibility of
> adding the missing functionality easily later on.
> 

Not a bad idea. What is the number of the RFE so I can add my vote.
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