G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 15:40 -0400, Matt Needles wrote:
On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 12:03 -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:
John W. Kennedy typed the following on 7/2/2006 11:22 AM:
Pete Holsberg wrote:
G. Roderick Singleton typed the following on 7/2/2006 7:49 AM:
On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 05:35 -0400, Lars D. Noodén wrote:
I looked at the install instructions and the OOo FAQ and see no
explicit description of when one should install the binary including
JRE and when one should install the binary without JRE.
When should one choose the one over the other? In a nutshell, what's
the difference? (and can we get it put in the FAQ?)
See http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/index.html . In
particular http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/021.html
"For example, with 1.1 you will not be able to use the XSLT
functionality, JDBC, applets, form generators, and Java Application
Programming Interfaces (APIs) for 3rd party modules, if no Java is
installed."
For example? Not exactly definitive!
What is XSLT functionality?
JBDC?
Which applets?
http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/022.html
"You can download Java from http://www.java.com or http://java.sun.com.";
http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/023.html
"Which version of Java do I need?"
http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/024.html
Not at all applicable.
http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/025.html
"Can I install Java after I install OpenOffice.org?"
There has to be a simple answer to the question, "Do I need to download
JRE for OOo?"
There is no real simple answer, because the situation isn't simple.
The pragmatic simple answer is, "If you don't have, or know whether you
have, a JRE, get the version that contains one."
For some people, that will the /wrong/ answer, but it will be "mostly
harmless".
So why not it a no-brainer and offer only the "with JRE" version?
I know -- because of the people with dial-up. Maybe they should
have a footnote or something that directs them to a CD.
I have a better (?) suggestion: why not do what M$ does? Leave it out,
but when the user tries to use a part of the app that needs it, start
the process of downloading and installing the JRE. That will make OOo as
small as possible for the initial download, with the possibility of
adding the missing functionality easily later on.
Not a bad idea. What is the number of the RFE so I can add my vote.
It's at http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=66978.
A possible related issue at
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=21536
Matt
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