I agree.  The "oVirt Node" part will not be a VM since as you said, it would be 
a VM within a VM - my mistake in expressing what i'm preparing.

Regarding the "single machine" (Engine and Node) "live iso" that you mention.  
Where can I find it…?

Regards;

Richie

José E ("Richie") Piovanetti, MD, MS 
M: 787-615-4884 | richiepiovane...@healthcareinfopartners.com






On Jun 5, 2013, at 3:28 AM, Joop <jvdw...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Richie@HIP wrote:
>> 
>> hi oVirt Community.
>> 
>> This will be my first posting for help to the oVirt community, so please 
>> bear with me I'f I'm not to the etiquette standards you might have already.
>> 
>> I'm trying to test oVirt as a FOSS Virtualization solution for small- to 
>> medium-sized healthcare organizations implementing various health 
>> information technology solutions (HIT) that the new health care reform is 
>> requiring.  As a Clinical informatist, I'm very concerned about health care 
>> costs, hence I'm pushing for open source to take a wider stance in U.S. 
>> health care to reduce costs where possible and divert moneys to patient 
>> care.  Now enough with my altruistic desires, and let go into the deep.
>> 
>> I'm trying to create "virtual machines" (using VirtualBox, Parallels and/or 
>> VMWare Workstation); mainly one for "oVirt Engine"; ind later a the second 
>> one for "oVirt Nodes".  This way, these VM's files can be copier to any 
>> hardware and underlying OS, so at least the "Virt Engine" is easily 
>> installed and brought-up to facilitate managing oVirt Nodes.  I considered 
>> creating ".iso" images of each component (Engine and Nodes) but I'm afraid 
>> this will hit the wall for linux novices when installing the ".iso" images 
>> in different hardware platforms (with different processors, number of cores, 
>> RAM, chipsets, etc.)
>> 
> If I understand you correctly you want to make VMs for both engine and node 
> so that you'll only need those images to setup a virtualisation 
> infrastructure?
> If so that is only partly going to work. The engine VM will work but the node 
> not since that would imply nested virtualisation. That can work but not for 
> every combination and probably not for the above mentioned products.
> Node needs to run on the bare metal since it provides the same functions as 
> VirtualBox/Parallels/VMWare, its Fedora18 as its operating system + kvm as 
> its virtualiser.
> 
> Concerning you dns problems, to make it short, you'll need to come up with a 
> naming scheme and implement that either using a full dns server or through 
> /etc/hosts.
> You might also have a look at the all-in-one plugin which turns a single 
> machine into both engine and node or if you want to play around have a look 
> at the live iso.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Joop
> 

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