On 4 Oct 2013, at 20:31, H. Haven Liu wrote: > I don't mean to appear argumentative, but these suggestions sounds like > non-answers: > > 1. my "favorite" VNC viewer is the "Screen Sharing" app in Mac (which is the > default VNC viewer that comes with every OS X installation). It does not take > input files (AFAIK). The previous solution was good in that it just presents > the password, which I can copy/paste into "Screen Sharing;
Have you tried SPICE with http://www.spice-space.org/page/OSX_Client ? Have you tried noVNC support new in 3.3? > 2. the problem with "downloading" a file is that I have to open it (with yet > another application), and delete the file afterwards. indeed, that's not very convenient :-/ > > Again, I'm not even saying the .vv file does not have benefits or that the > option should not be there, as I'm sure those that use virt-viewer can enjoy > it. But not everyone uses virt-viewer, and not all popular VNC viewer > supports file inputs. well, the file contains all the info needed for connection so with a simple wrapper every single VNC client which accepts a host/pwd on cmdline will work just fine. regarding your favorite app, there seems to be way how to open it without asking for anything, see http://superuser.com/questions/217425/is-there-a-way-to-launch-screensharing-from-the-terminal so how about writing a simple bash wrapper to parse out the host&password and launch "open vnc://user@pass:server:port" ? If you succeed it would be great if you can share your wrapper script > > You can't possibly be telling me that using a VNC client such as mine is > benefited by the "download .vv file method" as compared to the previous > method. Anyway you slice it, it sounds just like "well, too bad. deal with it" I hope one of the three solutions above would work for you… Thanks, michal > > On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Michal Skrivanek <michal.skriva...@redhat.com> > wrote: > >> >> On 4 Oct 2013, at 17:12, Itamar Heim wrote: >> >>> On 10/04/2013 06:09 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu wrote: >>>> I can appreciate the .vv file for certain platforms in which virt-viewer >>>> provides additional benefits, but my point was I (and I suspect at least >>>> some other) use existing VNC clients in Mac/Windows/Linux, and perhaps >>>> don't want to use virt-viewer. In those cases, that the "download .vv >>>> file method" is more needlessly cumbersome as compared to the "popup with >>>> host/port/password" method, whether it involves writing a wrapper, or just >>>> open the downloaded text file. >>>> >>>> As I said, perhaps instead of the two console options scheme currently, it >>>> should be a three console option scheme with "VNC", "virt-viewer", >>>> "SPICE", because the "download .vv file method" is not at all (generic) >>>> VNC clients friendly. >>> >>> it is missing a script for you to associate with your browser, which will >>> get the .vv file and launch your favorite vnc client with the info from the >>> .vv file? >> >> or, if you prefer, associate it with your favorite text editor so you can >> copy&paste the same info as before. >> It's a browser's association you have to set/change >> >> Thanks, >> michal >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Itamar Heim <ih...@redhat.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/03/2013 02:29 AM, Christian Hernandez wrote: >>>>>>>> Since virt-viewer appears to be a linux-only tool, and VNC clients >>>>>> from Windows or OS X do not recognize the file formats, opening a >>>>>> console to a VM just became more cumbersome for not apparent >> benefit. >>>>>> There should at least be an option for those that don't use virt-viewer >>>>>> to still get the popup. >>>>>> >>>>>> Agreed >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe this is just a ploy to get everyone to use Spice? >>>>>> >>>>>> ...if that's the case; when are we going to get Spice plugin for Mac OSX? >>>>> >>>>> to answer both. >>>>> 1. its not a ploy, its actually to solve the problem for platforms >>>>> without plugins for spice or vnc (no platform has a plugin for vnc). >>>>> >>>>> 2. virt-viewer supports both windows and linux >>>>> http://www.spice-space.org/download.html >>>>> >>>>> i remember there is a client for mac as well actually, i suggest asking >>>>> on: >>>>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel >>>>> >>>>> 3. you can write a small wrapper script and associate it with the .vv >>>>> file (hopefully, someone will do this and attach an example for others). >>>>> this will work for both vnc of your choice and spice on any platform >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Itamar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> >>>>>> Christian Hernandez >>>>>> 1225 Los Angeles Street >>>>>> Glendale, CA 91204 >>>>>> Phone: 877-782-2737 ext. 4566 >>>>>> Fax: 818-265-3152 >>>>>> christi...@4over.com <mailto:christi...@4over.com> >>>>>> <mailto:christi...@4over.com <mailto:christi...@4over.com>> >>>>>> www.4over.com <http://www.4over.com/> <http://www.4over.com >>>>>> <http://www.4over.com/>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Haoyang Haven Liu <haven....@ucla.edu >>>>>> <mailto:haven....@ucla.edu>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The replacement of VNC popup with a .vv file download seems like a >>>>>> (or several) step backward. Since virt-viewer appears to be a >>>>>> linux-only tool, and VNC clients from Windows or OS X do not >>>>>> recognize the file formats, opening a console to a VM just became >>>>>> more cumbersome for not apparent benefit. There should at least be >>>>>> an option for those that don't use virt-viewer to still get the popup. >>>>>> >>>>>> Haven >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Frantisek Kobzik <fkob...@redhat.com >>>>>> <mailto:fkob...@redhat.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Nick, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> concerning the 3rd screenshot - that was a bug in oVirt, but the >>>>>> fix has been already merged. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> About the VNC popup - indeed, it has been removed. The only way >>>>>> to get the VNC connection information is using 'Native' mode in >>>>>> Console options dialog and then open incoming .vv file (e.g. using >>>>>> text editor, script...). I suppose the virt-viewer association with >>>>>> .vv file must be turned off (otherwise virt-viewer will pop up >>>>>> instantly). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Frank. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Nicholas Kesick" <cybertimber2...@hotmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:cybertimber2...@hotmail.com>> >>>>>>> To: "oVirt Mailing List" <users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:09:14 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Users] Understanding Console Options >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm trying to understand the various console options for a wiki >>>>>> page. Can someone make sure what I have in the attachments are right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also when a VM is set to Spice and I open Console Options (at >>>>>> least in IE 10 for me, need to test further), it opens to Remote >>>>>> Desktop. Are these active yet? I don't see RDP as an option under >>>>>> Edit > Console. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Finally, is there any way to get the VNC option that we had in >>>>>> oVirt 3.2 that would pop up with a port number and password to use >>>>>> with a local client? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Nick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>>>> Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> >>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>>>> Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> >>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>>> Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Users mailing list >>>>>> Users@ovirt.org >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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