Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will miss it. With 
70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, but I’m never going to use 
it for primary work. Please prioritize ease of use on Desktop over Mobile!


> From: FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.fredi...@upx.com>
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release is now 
> available for testing
> Date: October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT
> To: users@ovirt.org
> 
> 
> On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will the right click dialog be available in the final release? Because,
>>> currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to interact with
>>> object (migrate, maintenance...)
>>> 
>> Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose.
>> 
>> Long answer: No, here are the reasons why:
>> - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and while its not 
>> 100%
>> there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now. Mobile 
>> devices
>> don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would make no
>> sense.
> Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile usage is nice 
> to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day operation nobody uses 
> mobile devices to do their deployments and manage their large environments. 
> If having both options where you can switch between then is nice, but if 
> something should prevail should always be Desktop. We are not talking about a 
> Stock Trading interface or something you need that level or flexibility and 
> mobility to do static things anytime anywhere.
> 
> So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are pretty useful 
> for a day by day and real management usage because of a new trend or buzz 
> stuff.
> Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will be for quite 
> a while.
>> - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of ours and you
>> can do things like copy from the menu.
>> - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the buttons/kebab menu
>> available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly used actions as
>> a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter the 
>> interface.
>> We traded an extra click for some mouse travel
>> - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click menu because its
>> a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that was only
>> available in the right click menu.
>> 
>> Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move or not. For
>> now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it back, it is
>> certainly possible we will put it back.
>> 
>>>> that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster and better
>>>> than before.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>>>>> The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of the First
>>>>>> Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to be used
>>>>>> in production.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to ask
>>>>>> questions and interact with developers and users.All issues or bugs
>>>>>> should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version. This
>>>>>> release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one thousand
>>>>>> bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity fixes, on
>>>>>> top of oVirt 4.1 series.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What's new in oVirt 4.2.0?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>         The Administration Portalhas been completely redesigned using
>>>>>>      Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web application design.
>>>>>>      It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for an improved
>>>>>>      user experience.
>>>>>>      *
>>>>>>         There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users.
>>>>>>      *
>>>>>>         A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been added to the
>>>>>>      New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal.
>>>>>>      *
>>>>>>         Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open vSwitch software
>>>>>>      defined networking (SDN).
>>>>>>      *
>>>>>>         oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU.
>>>>>>      *
>>>>>>         The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common
>>>>>>      administration tasks.
>>>>>>      *
>>>>>>         Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For more information about these and other features, check out the
>>>>>> oVirt 4.2.0 blog post
>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le
>>>>>> architectures for:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade
>>>>>> instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - oVirt Appliance is already available.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Additional Resources:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights:
>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Get more oVirt project updates on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ovirt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog:
>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/blog/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/ <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt
>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <https://red.ht/sig>
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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