Question is: who is the user ? There are different types of them for
different proposes.
Fernando
On 31/10/2017 15:57, Oved Ourfali wrote:
As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You
see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't
considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly
guideline (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the
application).
We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high demand.
Thanks for the feedback!
Oved
On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <bu...@onholyground.com
<mailto:bu...@onholyground.com>> wrote:
Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will
miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface,
but I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize
ease of use on Desktop over Mobile!
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*From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.fredi...@upx.com
<mailto:fernando.fredi...@upx.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release
is now available for testing
*Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT
*To:* users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>
On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote:
Will the right click dialog be available in the final release?
Because,
currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to
interact with
object (migrate, maintenance...)
Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose.
Long answer: No, here are the reasons why:
- We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and
while its not 100%
there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now.
Mobile devices
don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would
make no
sense.
Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile
usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day
operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments and
manage their large environments. If having both options where you
can switch between then is nice, but if something should prevail
should always be Desktop. We are not talking about a Stock
Trading interface or something you need that level or flexibility
and mobility to do static things anytime anywhere.
So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are
pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because
of a new trend or buzz stuff.
Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will
be for quite a while.
- You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of
ours and you
can do things like copy from the menu.
- We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the
buttons/kebab menu
available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly
used actions as
a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter
the interface.
We traded an extra click for some mouse travel
- Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click
menu because its
a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that
was only
available in the right click menu.
Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move
or not. For
now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it
back, it is
certainly possible we will put it back.
that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster
and better
than before.
On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of
the First
Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017
This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to
be used
in production.
Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to ask
questions and interact with developers and users.All issues
or bugs
should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2].
This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version. This
release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one
thousand
bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity
fixes, on
top of oVirt 4.1 series.
What's new in oVirt 4.2.0?
*
The Administration Portalhas been completely
redesigned using
Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web
application design.
It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for
an improved
user experience.
*
There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users.
*
A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been
added to the
New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal.
*
Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open
vSwitch software
defined networking (SDN).
*
oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU.
*
The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common
administration tasks.
*
Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs.
For more information about these and other features, check
out the
oVirt 4.2.0 blog post
<https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/
<https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>>.
This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for:
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
* CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le
architectures for:
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* CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
* oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only)
See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade
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Notes:
- oVirt Appliance is already available.
- An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon.
Additional Resources:
* Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights:
http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
<http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
<http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
<http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
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<https://www.ovirt.org/community/>
<https://www.ovirt.org/community/
<https://www.ovirt.org/community/>>
[2]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt
<https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>
<https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt
<https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>>
[3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
<http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
<http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
<http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
[4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
<http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>
<http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
<http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>>
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