Hey, for sporadic use, you will get used to the new interface soon enough. For very repetitive tasks, you will probably be using the API anyway.
While I was happy with the old GUI, I do not see anything wrong with the new one. @devs: Thanks for the new version! Eduardo Mayoral Jimeno (emayo...@arsys.es) Administrador de sistemas. Departamento de Plataformas. Arsys internet. +34 941 620 145 ext. 5153 On 31/10/17 19:01, FERNANDO FREDIANI wrote: > > Question is: who is the user ? There are different types of them for > different proposes. > > Fernando > > > On 31/10/2017 15:57, Oved Ourfali wrote: >> As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. >> You see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't >> considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly >> guideline (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the >> application). >> >> We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high >> demand. >> >> Thanks for the feedback! >> Oved >> >> On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <bu...@onholyground.com >> <mailto:bu...@onholyground.com>> wrote: >> >> Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will >> miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, >> but I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize >> ease of use on Desktop over Mobile! >> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.fredi...@upx.com >>> <mailto:fernando.fredi...@upx.com>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta >>> Release is now available for testing >>> *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT >>> *To:* users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> >>> >>> >>> On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Will the right click dialog be available in the final release? >>>>> Because, >>>>> currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to >>>>> interact with >>>>> object (migrate, maintenance...) >>>>> >>>> Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose. >>>> >>>> Long answer: No, here are the reasons why: >>>> - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and >>>> while its not 100% >>>> there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now. >>>> Mobile devices >>>> don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there >>>> would make no >>>> sense. >>> Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile >>> usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by >>> day operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments >>> and manage their large environments. If having both options >>> where you can switch between then is nice, but if something >>> should prevail should always be Desktop. We are not talking >>> about a Stock Trading interface or something you need that level >>> or flexibility and mobility to do static things anytime anywhere. >>> >>> So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are >>> pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because >>> of a new trend or buzz stuff. >>> Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will >>> be for quite a while. >>>> - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of >>>> ours and you >>>> can do things like copy from the menu. >>>> - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the >>>> buttons/kebab menu >>>> available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly >>>> used actions as >>>> a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter >>>> the interface. >>>> We traded an extra click for some mouse travel >>>> - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click >>>> menu because its >>>> a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that >>>> was only >>>> available in the right click menu. >>>> >>>> Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good >>>> move or not. For >>>> now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it >>>> back, it is >>>> certainly possible we will put it back. >>>> >>>>>> that is something you are interested in. 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