On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 3:32 PM <tho...@hoberg.net> wrote:
>
> I got a three-node and a single-node HCI that I upgraded from 4.3.5 on CentOS 
> 7.6 to 4.3.6 on CentOS 7.7.
>
> The three-node update worked like a charm, mostly just using the GUI: VMs got 
> properly migrated but the SPM wasn't, I'm afraid, causing a re-election and 
> some Gluster healing wobbles I had to iron out.
>
> The single node updates generally are much more painful than you describe. I 
> find that hosted-engine is complaining about the storage being inaccessible 
> and I need to restart the Gluster daemon to have gluster volume status all 
> show TCP ports. I then generally restart the ovirt-ha-broker and agent until 
> they stop complaining, I might do hosted-engine --connect-storage etc. until 
> eventually hosted-engine --vm-status is at least no longer complaining about 
> lack of storage.
>
> I can then start the management engine and leave maintenance mode.
>
> BTW: With the ovirt 4.3.6 update came a new hosted-engine template image so I 
> guessed running an update on the management engine VM would be in order: At 
> that point I noticed a rather useful message, that engine-setup should be 
> re-run as part of the upgrade, which then again tried to pull various updates 
> (that should have been already satisfied at that point).

engine-setup locks with yum/dnf versionlock plugin the RPMs of the
engine itself, so that it can both upgrade them and the database
schema (and sometimes other things) all at once.

IIRC some years ago there were discussions about allowing upgrade from
the UI. I think this didn't go anywhere, probably because it wasn't
easy, and didn't seem worth it.

The notice you saw to run engine-setup is actually a new 4.3 feature -
glad it helped you :-)

https://gerrit.ovirt.org/96446

>
> I guess the point I am trying to make is that while three-node host updates 
> are wonderfully served by the GUI, there is a stiff decline in UX ergonomics 
> when it comes to single node (which has limited usefulness, I understand) but 
> also the management engine: Updates of the latter may be less frequent, but 
> could either use some dedicated step-by-step documentation or UX support.
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