Hi Gerard, could you possibly elaborate on this? We want senders and receivers 
be completely separated, they are different applications.

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From: Weatherby,Gerard <gweathe...@uchc.edu>
Sent: woensdag 14 oktober 2020 14:20
To: users@qpid.apache.org
Subject: Re: Non-blocking Sender with no Receivers

I don’t know if this would work, but have you tried making your senders 
receivers of their own messages?
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Gerard Weatherby | Application Architect NMRbox | Department of Molecular 
Biology and Biophysics | UConn Health
263 Farmington Avenue, Farmington, CT 06030-6406 uchc.edu

> On Oct 14, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Petrenko, Vadim <vadim.petre...@ns.nl> wrote:
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> We’re trying to implement our Qpid dispatch router network in such a way that 
> a sender can connect to it at any moment and start sending messages to a 
> topic.
> There might be no receivers at this moment, so the messages would be just 
> lost. This is ok.
> Then an any moment a receiver(s) can connect and start receiving messages 
> currently being sent, then drop off. The sender will just continue sending 
> messages, probably into the void.
>
> It’s about sending data from sensors. Sensor data is short living and there 
> is no need to buffer it or persist. If no one consumes this data in realtime, 
> it can be lost.
> Senders and receivers in our situation are quite volatile, they appear and 
> drop off.
>
> As per docs of Qpid:
> ===
> Dispatch Router uses a credit-based flow control mechanism to ensure that 
> producers can only send messages to a router if at least one consumer is 
> available to receive them. Because Dispatch Router does not store messages, 
> this credit-based flow control prevents producers from sending messages when 
> there are no consumers present.
> ===
>
> I was wondering, maybe there is still a workaround or a trick to implement 
> the router network the way I described in the beginning?
> If possible without extra brokers and only with Qpid dispatch routers?
>
> Thanks.
>
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