I expect Gerard means that if you also created a receiver that
received your multicasted messages, then you would definitely be
granted credit to send to the address, since you have ensured there is
definitely a receiver (you, plus maybe others)

On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 14:27, Petrenko, Vadim <vadim.petre...@ns.nl> wrote:
>
> Hi Gerard, could you possibly elaborate on this? We want senders and 
> receivers be completely separated, they are different applications.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Weatherby,Gerard <gweathe...@uchc.edu>
> Sent: woensdag 14 oktober 2020 14:20
> To: users@qpid.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Non-blocking Sender with no Receivers
>
> I don’t know if this would work, but have you tried making your senders 
> receivers of their own messages?
> --
> Gerard Weatherby | Application Architect NMRbox | Department of Molecular 
> Biology and Biophysics | UConn Health
> 263 Farmington Avenue, Farmington, CT 06030-6406 uchc.edu
>
> > On Oct 14, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Petrenko, Vadim <vadim.petre...@ns.nl> wrote:
> >
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> > Good day,
> >
> > We’re trying to implement our Qpid dispatch router network in such a way 
> > that a sender can connect to it at any moment and start sending messages to 
> > a topic.
> > There might be no receivers at this moment, so the messages would be just 
> > lost. This is ok.
> > Then an any moment a receiver(s) can connect and start receiving messages 
> > currently being sent, then drop off. The sender will just continue sending 
> > messages, probably into the void.
> >
> > It’s about sending data from sensors. Sensor data is short living and there 
> > is no need to buffer it or persist. If no one consumes this data in 
> > realtime, it can be lost.
> > Senders and receivers in our situation are quite volatile, they appear and 
> > drop off.
> >
> > As per docs of Qpid:
> > ===
> > Dispatch Router uses a credit-based flow control mechanism to ensure that 
> > producers can only send messages to a router if at least one consumer is 
> > available to receive them. Because Dispatch Router does not store messages, 
> > this credit-based flow control prevents producers from sending messages 
> > when there are no consumers present.
> > ===
> >
> > I was wondering, maybe there is still a workaround or a trick to implement 
> > the router network the way I described in the beginning?
> > If possible without extra brokers and only with Qpid dispatch routers?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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