Looking at the index.html in the bin/js-debug folder, it contains 250
goog.goog.addDependency() lines.
Hope someone can help me to understand:
1. How does the index.html relate to HelloWorld.js in the js-release
folder? Is the stuff in js-release generated based on the js-debug?
2. Are all the 250 goog.goog.addDependency() lines really needed?
3. In the first line:
goog.addDependency('../../../HelloWorld_mx_managers_SystemManager.js', ...
I have removed many item(?) in the 'requires' argument,
e.g. 'org.apache.royale.utils.Timer', and the webpage is not visibly
affected.
How/where is it decided what does into this argument?Any help will be appreciated, Piotr On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 2:42 PM Greg Dove <greg.d...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Piotr, > > Emulation will always have more weight because, in addition to a > reasonably 'heavy' (but very capable) framework, in js there is also > emulation of certain flash player features that were not part of the flex > framework itself but are not present in the browser. (such as emulation of > flash.utils.Timer, for example). > There are undoubtedly improvements that we can make over time to reduce > size. But emulation's main priority is to 'get things working' first, so I > do expect that will come later. > > But also it is not simply correct to compare > HelloWorld.swf with HelloWorld.js > > The HelloWorld.swf is internally compressed with lzma compression after it > has been built. > > HelloWorld.js would typically be deployed on a server that uses gzip > compression when sending content. The 'minified' js output is optimized for > this expectation, so it is better to gzip that javascript file and compare > that to the swf size. > So to compare/test, in the past on windows I have used the 7zip > application (I use 'normal' compression level, I don't know what is used on > web servers). > > Hope that helps... > > Greg > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 6:10 AM Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Piotr, >> >> I think it is the same issue that happened with Flex. And the reason why >> PAYG was adopted >> If you don't want that overweight you must leave emulation and go with >> pure Royale, is a bit more work in the layout, but I think it's worth it. >> >> El mar., 20 oct. 2020 a las 19:06, Piotr Grudzinski (< >> pi...@powersmiths.com>) escribió: >> >>> The HelloWorld.swf file is only 79KB in size. >>> Looking at the initial part of the HelloWorld.js with a text editor >>> gives me an impression that most of the stuff in this file is never used. >>> Examples: >>> Bl='org.apache.royale.utils.Timer' >>> vf='org.apache.royale.graphics.GradientEntry' >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:08 PM Yishay Weiss <yishayj...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, missed that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So to expand a bit on Carlos’s answer, using emulation will probably >>>> cut down dev time but will certainly increase app size. If you are looking >>>> for the leanest solution that’s what Basic is for. Jewel is less focused on >>>> app size but will probably still be somewhat smaller than emulation. I >>>> don’t think we ever made precise measurements, but that’s the general idea. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 20, 2020 6:13 PM >>>> *To: *users@royale.apache.org >>>> *Subject: *Re: How to minify mxroyale\HelloWorld .js file >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Yishay, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> he's talking about reducing size of the js-release version >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El mar., 20 oct. 2020 a las 17:07, Yishay Weiss (< >>>> yishayj...@hotmail.com>) escribió: >>>> >>>> There should be [1] a minified version under js-release >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] https://apache.github.io/royale-docs/get-started/hello-world >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> >>>> *Sent: *Monday, October 19, 2020 11:06 PM >>>> *To: *users@royale.apache.org >>>> *Subject: *Re: How to minify mxroyale\HelloWorld .js file >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Don't think so. I'm not an expert on Flex emulation in Royale but it's >>>> trying to work as Flex did, so I think if original flex hello world was >>>> around 500kb is normal that emulation is around that size. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Although Royale has a better architecture based on PAYG and >>>> strand/beads, only using UI Sets like Basic or Jewel will make you get >>>> better and lower sizes in your app. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That's one of the tradebacks in using emulation vs a newer ui set you >>>> get it working with less changes in your code, but the size will be pretty >>>> similar I think. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El lun., 19 oct. 2020 a las 16:41, Piotr Grudzinski (< >>>> pi...@powersmiths.com>) escribió: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have built the the mxroyale\HelloWorld example using a command line >>>> with the following options: >>>> >>>> -debug=false -targets=JSRoyale +configname=flex >>>> >>>> The HelloWorld.js file in the js-release folder is 504KB in size which >>>> feels quite big for such a simple application. >>>> >>>> Are there any compiler options available to minify the generated .js >>>> file? >>>> >>>> Any other ideas to minify it? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Piotr >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Carlos Rovira >>>> >>>> Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC >>>> >>>> *Apache Software Foundation* >>>> >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Carlos Rovira >>>> >>>> Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC >>>> >>>> *Apache Software Foundation* >>>> >>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Carlos Rovira >> Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC >> *Apache Software Foundation* >> http://about.me/carlosrovira >> >>
