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>> Subject: Re: Earthlink emails
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>> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:43:48 +0530
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>> On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 11:05 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote:
>> > > Apparently they have removed SPF records after publishing them once.
>> > > Thats a stupid idea IMHO. Today I am forced to TEMP FAIL earthlink ids
>> > > whenever there is a spam attack on my servers
>> > 
>> > SPF can be a pain for a number of reasons that have been discussed 
>> > endlessly.  I suspect Dirtlink found them to be effectively useless.
>> > 
>> > Why not try using domainkeys instead?
>> > 
>> > DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
>> >   s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net;
>> >   b=FB4IOaniCvpDwkx5cYm2jFWe8LB9zRfxL9FHzbhv1JHyGSVrA0o4mttb3jjbU4C3;
>> >   
>> > h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;
>> > 
>> >         Loren
>> 
>> Darn,
>> I dont want to again get into SPF debates. 
>> 
>> Assume I am using domain keys and catching all spams forged from
>> earthlink , still I am scanning the mails. 
>> 
>> Anyway that is already happening today. SA is catching spams from
>> earthlink( forged ?) but when you scan a huge number of mails you would
>> like to be able to reject forged mails straight after "mail from:". 
>> That is what SPF lets you do and that works. 
>>    
>>    No wonder a lot of spammers have stopped forging hotmail or msn
>> because most of those mails dont even get thru the MTA. And a majority
>> of the forged spams I still get is from earthlink or yahoo.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Ram
>> 
>> 
>> 
Hi,

well - you could set up your MTA to verify domainkeys and reject. However, 
there are a lot of mails
around that could cause rejection altnhough they are valid .... mail resent by 
something (e.g.
a mailing list) but keeping the domain keys / not adding a "sender" header

Wolfgang Hamann



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