Matthias Keller wrote:
John D. Hardin wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Matthias Keller wrote:

I'm curious.. as someone who ALSO runs a home mail server...

What's wrong with evolving best practices to require that our outgoing email be channeled through our ISP's mail server, instead of having our customer-assigned IP addresses directly connect to other people's mail servers?
And forcing users to use their ISP's mail server efficively defeats SPF

How so?

I'm assuming a home business owner owns and uses their own domain and
has the ability to set up SPF records for that domain. If you are
routing your outbound mail via your ISP's MTAs, just grab your ISP's
SPF record and use it for your domain. If your ISP is doing SPF checks
you might need to talk to their MTA via SMTP AUTH to bypass that test.
a) an average user has no knowledge of SPF and cannot setup such a record correctly

How many average users are running SOHO mail servers?

b) most providers (at least around here) dont allow users to freely modify their dns zones

They don't need to modify their provider's DNS, they only need to modify their own mail domain's DNS. For example, I only need control of/access to rudd.cc's zone. I don't need access to sonic.net's zones. (those being my home domain and home ISP)

c) users using laptops might be using many different providers - the one at home, the one in the office, one on the road, an occasional wlan one - you just cant include all these provider's MTAs that you might ever be using

If they're running their own mail server on their own home system, why aren't they using SMTP-AUTH to connect to their home mail server (or SMTP-AUTH to their primary ISP's mail server), and route their mail through there?

SMTP-AUTH handles the mobile workstation just fine.

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