javaone tapering off, waited to reply to this thread. was great to meet up with howard and chris nelson and meet tapestry devs scattered amongst the masses.
.02 on the logos: i had also proposed a logo contest when howard first introduced the new logo designs and made my comments then. i thought it would be great to have more community participation in the same vein as open source. since then i have some second thoughts about this in part because: 1. a contest can be more work than just creating a logo. 2. as i speak with more professional designers they are put off by the idea of a contest in that it is doing work 'on spec' and no one worth their weight really does that in the design world. they are not as invested in the open sourceyness of it all. 3. could be a good if we use it for some outside marketing, but otherwise can result in 'too many cooks in the kitchen'. that said, i willing to put up and help manage a contest site if desired. otherwise i am also having some folk put together some comps and will present them to the list. perhaps this is our informal way of having a 'contest', if more and more people can contribute comps via the list. in regards to the feather and apache - agree that feather is not necessary and clutter, we can have versions that can include it, but otherwise tap logo really needs it's own distinction. Quoting Peter Svensson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think it rather depends on the management :) > > Cheers, > PS > > On 5/19/06, Townson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On the subject of feathers ... > > > > Here are some more variations on a theme developed by my design contact > > for your consideration ... > > > > http://www.takethebanana.co.uk/tapestry/tapestrylogos_v006.jpg > > > > Chris > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 19 May 2006 14:54 > > > To: Tapestry users > > > Subject: Re: new logo for Tapestry > > > > > > Hate to break it to you, but management has *no* idea what > > > the Apache > > > feather looks like or means. Sorry! > > > > > > I do think the "tryout factor" for developers is a good point. > > > > > > However, I think the more common approach of placing the Apache logo > > > alongside ours serves all the purposes you mention, without > > > burdening > > > the logo. > > > > > > And it *does* burden the logo. The Apache project logos > > > attempting to > > > integrate a feather generally don't look as good, IMO. Geronimo? Eh. > > > Boring. Didn't even see the feathers until I was looking for them. > > > Spamassasin? Tomcat? Ant? Slick! Looking sharp! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > On May 19, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Peter Svensson wrote: > > > > > > > My reason for wanted an Apache reference (apart from the obvious > > > > fact the > > > > Apache supports the project) is that, as someone recently > > > > mentioned, gets > > > > the attention of management. Otherwise Tapestry is just another > > > > framework. > > > > few have worked with it, and the only way you can feel the > > > > nejoyment , as it > > > > were, is to try it out. > > > > > > > > I'd wager that we would have easily twice the try-out > > > factor if the > > > > Apache > > > > refernce was clear rather than not, which would benefit Tapestry > > > > (and us) in > > > > the end. > > > > > > > > Then again, it doesn't have to be the feather, it might be tricky to > > > > integrate in the "T" design tat forms the base of most proposals. > > > > Maybe just > > > > the text "Apache" or "An Apache Project", perhaps as an option, > > > > sometimes > > > > you have it, sometimes not, whatever, but still... > > > > > > > > When in Rome, do as the Romulans :) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > PS > > > > > > > > On 5/19/06, Schulte Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Actually, I think the spam assassin logo does a great > > > >> job in referencing Apache without just copy-pasting the feather - > > > >> and thus without sacrificing the integrity of the design. > > > >> > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:44 PM > > > >> > To: Tapestry users > > > >> > Subject: Re: new logo for Tapestry > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > You mean like Ant, Tomcat, Cocoon, Excalibur, and SpamAssassin? > > > >> > > > > >> > Oh, wait, *none* of them do.... > > > >> > > > > >> > http://ant.apache.org/images/ant_logo_large.gif > > > >> > http://tomcat.apache.org/images/tomcat.gif > > > >> > http://cocoon.apache.org/images/cocoon-logo.gif > > > >> > http://excalibur.apache.org/logo.gif > > > >> > http://spamassassin.apache.org/images/arrowlogo.png > > > >> > > > > >> > I don't like the version with the feather. It's awkward. > > > >> > > > > >> > On May 18, 2006, at 3:26 PM, James Carman wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > Well, tapestry *is* an Apache top-level project now (and an > > > >> Apache > > > >> > > "product"). I think it's very important that we include the > > > >> "apache > > > >> > > feather." > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:22 PM > > > >> > > To: Tapestry users > > > >> > > Subject: Re: new logo for Tapestry > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I think the first image is just fine. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > IMO logo should be free of any references to Apache or > > > any other > > > >> > > projects or > > > >> > > organizations for that matter. If there will be Apache > > > >> > feather then > > > >> > > why now > > > >> > > add that cup of cofee, or make it cup of ink and put the > > > >> > feather in > > > >> > > it ;). > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Borut Bolèina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here, I took the liberty > > > >> > > of > > > >> > > recreating > > > >> > > the background. Geoff, I hope you > > > >> > > dont't mind. > > > >> > > http://svarog.homeip.net/tapestry-logo/logo.png > > > >> > > > > > >> > > What do you say? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -Borut > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Geoff Longman pravi: > > > >> > >> Have a look at the Spindle logo at http://spindle.sf.net > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Behind the swoopy S is a version of the old T logo I like a > > > >> lot - > > > >> > >> looks like an architectural drawing. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Alas, I lost the original vector artwork for that > > > logo long ago. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Geoff > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> On 5/17/06, Steven Bell wrote: > > > >> > >>> I must say I like Dwi Ardi Irawan's logo for three main > > > >> reasons. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> It's simple. > > > >> > >>> It scales nicely. (I think this is very important!) > > > >> > >>> It looks professional. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> And on top of that it looks really good. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> On 5/17/06, Fernando Padilla wrote: > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> I sort of like the basic T logo, this one is along the > > > >> > same lines. > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> another brainstorm: take a weave pattern like old windows > > > >> > >>>> background, > > > >> > >>>> but highlight a few bits of the weave to have a T come out > > > >> of it. > > > >> > >>>> Basically take the current logo, but add a weave > > > pattern in > > > >> the > > > >> > >>>> background in very light grey.. > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> Dwi Ardi Irawan wrote: > > > >> > >>>>> it's just my opinion..... > > > >> > >>>>> tapestry logo > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> i think > > > >> > >>>>> tapestry logo competition just use for the best logo and > > > >> > >>> represent the > > > >> > >>>>> tapestry meaning > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> cmiiw > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>>> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > >>>> -- > > > >> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users- > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> -- > > > >> > >>> Regards, > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Steven Bell > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > > > >> > Piano music podcast: http://inthehands.com > > > >> > Other interesting stuff: http://innig.net > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Piano music podcast: http://inthehands.com > > > Other interesting stuff: http://innig.net > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************** > > DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is confidential and should not be used by anyone > > who is > > not the original intended recipient. 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