> I wouldn't go for "ng" though, merely because what if there's a new next 
> generation.

I think that would be Tapestry Deep Space Nine. :P


On Tue, 20 May 2008 13:28:12 +0200, Christian Edward Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Heh.  The fish bit did get kinda carried away there.  But I guess
> we're still united by the "fillet" designation. ;)
>
> I wouldn't go for "ng" though, merely because what if there's a new
> next generation.  It gets silly.  Either a version or a codename, I
> figure.  Maybe "sb" for "strutsbuster".
>
> Christian.
>
> On 20-May-08, at 06:24 , kranga wrote:
>
>> Somebody likes fish :)
>>
>> +1 for the idea
>> -1 for the fishiness of it!
>>
>> I would go with a distinguisher in the package other than the
>> version so that come T6, new users are wondering "what on earth?"
>>
>> My suggestion would be
>>
>> org.apache.tapestry.ng    (for Next Generation)
>>
>> or along the food line:
>>
>> org.apache.tapestry.mignon
>> org.apache.tapestry.ribeye
>> org.apache.tapestry.nystrip
>> org.apache.tapestry.porterhouse
>>
>> you get the drift :)
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Edward Gruber" <[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]
>> >
>> To: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Instability in Tapestry 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT
>>
>>
>>> Again, the differences between T3, T4, and T5 are not really
>>> "versions" in the typical sense.  They're different architectural
>>> bases.  You might call them three different web frameworks
>>> entirely.   So there should be no reason technically for them to
>>> overlap, and they  should have three different packages.  You might
>>> as well have them by  three different codenames, at which point you
>>> have
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry.trout
>>> org.apache.tapestry.tuna
>>> org.apache.tapestry.tilapia
>>>
>>> Different frameworks, all under the Tapestry project.  The fact
>>> that org.apache.tapestry.yellowtail shows up in four years should
>>> have no bearing on the other three. (again, not that it will, just
>>> making a point)
>>>
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19-May-08, at 17:59 , Markus Joschko wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not against a package rename but against the version number.
>>>>
>>>> The only benefit of putting a version number in, is to help tap4
>>>> users
>>>> now. But who will care about tap4 in 2 years?
>>>> The version number will still be in the code base by then.
>>>> If the official version number of tapestry is changing from 5 to
>>>> 2011
>>>> or whatsoever, developers will at best be irritated by the tapestry5
>>>> package names
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Sven Homburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> markus,
>>>>>
>>>>> i voted for package renaming like "org.apache.tapestry5"
>>>>> but i go even conform with your mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> if i read the reason for the package renaming, i was relay
>>>>> alienated for that,
>>>>>
>>>>> but on the other side, i am not sure, its more easier for
>>>>> some tap4 user to migrate slowly to tap5.
>>>>>
>>>>> but i am not sure, in our real fast spinning world,
>>>>> if  there are much developer they say "i migrate tommorow"
>>>>> and belive their own mind voice.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/5/19 Markus Joschko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like I am alone but I don't like the idea of putting version
>>>>>> numbers into package names.
>>>>>> In the highly unlikely case that there will be a tapestry 6 (not
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> technical but solely for marketing reasons ;-)) it might confuse
>>>>>> developers. Are the classes in tapestry5 still valid or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only developers who will run tapestry4 and 5 in one webapplication
>>>>>> might have the problem of distinguishing between the packages.
>>>>>> I guess that they are the minority and it might be reasonable
>>>>>> for  them
>>>>>> to read the class comments if they are in doubt which package
>>>>>> belongs
>>>>>> to which tapestry version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so -1 for a tapestry5 or v5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my 2cents,
>>>>>> Markus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Blower, Andy
>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Massimo Lusetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2008 16:02
>>>>>>>> To: Tapestry users
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Instability in Tapestry 5.0.12-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The question is: would it have been better to just broadly
>>>>>>>>> rename
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.tapestry to org.apache.tapestry5?  There was quite
>>>>>>>>> a  bit
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> discussion back on forth among the developers on this one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would say yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Massimo
>>>>>>>> http://meridio.blogspot.com

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