I plead to ask, if possible to enable a switch for template reloading. I may be screwed, literally...
Adam On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Adam Zimowski <zimowsk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Excuse me asking, but with class reloading disabled in production, >> template reloading still works, correct? >> >> My designer who mostly does TML's expects templates be reloadable in >> production. >> > > Well, then, you're screwed in Tapestry 5.3 :-) Looks like we'll > probably have to introduce a new symbol to allow this to be enabled in > production. But I think the vast majority of deployments will not need > this (and may like the increased throughput and lowered memory > utilization). > > >> Adam >> >> PS. >> >> On a side note, what about a hybrid switch? Like component class >> reloading but disable service reloading? >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Igor Drobiazko >>> <igor.drobia...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I never used live reloading in production, but it might be a cool marketing >>>> weapon. We could promote it as seomthing similar to ZeroTurnaround's >>>> LiveRebel: >>>> >>>> http://www.zeroturnaround.com/liverebel/ >>>> >>>> Imagine a new slogan on Tapestry's webpage: "With Tapestry you can roll out >>>> and roll back changes to live applications instantly - without Downtime" >>> >>> I don't like to over-promise. Live reloading has some limitations in >>> terms of reloading of service layer objects. I think having a seamless >>> redeploy model is for the application servers to handle, not the >>> framework. >>> >>> Basically, in production, you want to hype "fast and stable". In >>> development you want to hype, "agile and testable." >>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Out of curiosity ... does anyone out there rely on live class >>>>> (template, message catalog, whatever) reloading in their live, >>>>> production application? Now, normally, I'd think not, because the >>>>> deployed app will be packaged in a WAR and the unit of redeployment is >>>>> the entire WAR ... but I suppose some people could be using the >>>>> "exploded WAR" format, which would allow classes and templates to be >>>>> updated while the application runs. >>>>> >>>>> Live reloading is a feature that was originally intended for >>>>> development only; Tapestry 5.2 supports live reloading in the live >>>>> application, but as of yesterday, Tapestry 5.3 does NOT. I'm hoping to >>>>> see some improvements in throughput and a reduction in memory >>>>> utilization in production applications ... but it's not too late to >>>>> shift things so that 5.3 can support production reloading as well. >>>>> I'd prefer not to, however. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>>>> >>>>> Creator of Apache Tapestry >>>>> >>>>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >>>>> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >>>>> >>>>> (971) 678-5210 >>>>> http://howardlewisship.com >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Igor Drobiazko >>>> http://tapestry5.de >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>> >>> Creator of Apache Tapestry >>> >>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >>> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >>> >>> (971) 678-5210 >>> http://howardlewisship.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> > > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Creator of Apache Tapestry > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > (971) 678-5210 > http://howardlewisship.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
