Not sure how tapestry-jpa handles un-persisted instances. That is certainly 
another area where tapestry-hibernate does not give you a useable ValueEncoder.
To clarify my last post: tapestry-hibernate will give you a functional default 
value encoder if:
  1) The entity has a single column pk
  2) The entity is persistent

Robert

On Mar 14, 2012, at 3/147:28 PM , George Christman wrote:

> Thanks Robert for your reply. Yes I was referring to custom value encoders,
> perhaps I'm misusing them. I seem to be writing custom value encoders for
> components like the AjaxAddRow which is nothing more than a single column
> pk. The reason I use them is to generate a temp id 's for the component to
> use. I was hoping to get away from writing custom value encoders for simple
> component implementations like the one stated above. 
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