On 12/12/13 08:56, Cyrille Le Clerc wrote:
Hello Christopher,

Delegating to log4j/logback/java.util.logging could be an option but it
would still greatly benefit of a refactoring to split the existing
AccessLogValve into an AbstractAccessLogValve with the formatting logic and
an AccessLogValve that would keep the logic to write in the file.

I raised the issue of the AccessLogValve(s) not using the tomcat logging framework earlier this year. (ref: "Puzzled by Access Valve Logging" on the dev list.) Konstantin Kolinko pointed out that I should have held the discussion on the users list instead, and also that there were performance reasons for leaving the existing logic alone...

With this split, the <MyLoggingFramework>AccessLogValve would extend the
AbstractAccessLogValve.

I was not convinced by Konstantin, but did not have the time to undertake any research. I /still/ have an item on my "todo" list to develop an AccessLogValve that uses the implementation-defined tomcat logging framework (which in my case is bound to log4j). Performance is not an issue for me, but consistency of logging is more important.

My first task was to split the logger class in exactly the way Cyrille proposes. My initial impression several months ago was that the file handling could be refactored into a separate class, which extended an abstract class that performed the formatting (thus preserving a common set of formatting definitions, and also preserving high performance for those installations that require it).

I am travelling at the moment, so haven't had time to review Cyrille's code. However, I thought it would be helpful to register my thoughts as quickly as possible.

I hope his proposal is evaluated in a positive light. It isn't high priority, but I think it represents a valuable step forward with code that hasn't changed much over several releases.

Regards,

Brian

Regarding the existing Syslog implementations in Log4j and Logback, they
don't yet allow user to customise the syslog header fields but I plan to
propose to contribute these enhancements.

Finally, regarding the idea of injecting a logging framework jar in Tomcat
classloader, I feel it makes things pretty difficult to understand with the
risk of collision of the jars.

As a conclusion, I would be very happy to contribute to the Tomcat project
either the full SyslogAccessLogValve or just the split of the existing
AccessLogValve into an AbstractAccessLogValve with the formatting logic and
a AccessLogValve with the logic to write in files.

Cyrille




On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Christopher Schultz <
ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:

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Cyrille,

On 12/11/13, 1:49 PM, Cyrille Le Clerc wrote:
Dear Tomcat community,

We at CloudBees implemented a SyslogAccessLogValve that outputs
the access logs to a syslog server.

The support of Syslog is more detailed that what we can usually
find in java logging libraries as it allows to * configure all the
syslog header fields: appName, source hostname, severity and
facility * format syslog message according the RFC 3164 and to RFC
5424

Honestly, I think it would make more sense for the AccessLogValve to
be tied instead of directly to a file or syslog, to be tied instead to
a logging API. There already exist (relatively) standard syslog sinks
for log4j, java.util.logging, etc. Why create another one?

- -chris
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