On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Daniel Mikusa <dmik...@gopivotal.com>wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Howard W. Smith, Jr. <smithh032...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Daniel Mikusa <dmik...@gopivotal.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>>          It might be something as obvious as not having Java EE
> >> installed separately.  Perhaps Tomee+ will provide all that is needed.
> >>
> >> What specifically do you need?  Tomcat is not a full JEE container.  It
> >> implements the Servlet, JSP, EL and WebSockets specs.
> >>
> >>  http://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html
> >>
> >> If you need more then you could look at something like Apache Tomee or
> >> Apache Geronimo.
> >>
> >
> > +1 i agree, if you need full JEE container, my recommendation is TomEE.
>
> I don't believe Tomee is a "full JEE" container.  As I understand it, it
> targets the Web Profile.
>
>    "Apache TomEE, pronounced "Tommy", is an all-Apache stack aimed at Java
> EE 6 Web Profile certification"
>
>       https://tomee.apache.org/apache-tomee.html
>
> The Web Profile is a subset of the full JEE platform.  This contrasts to
> Apache Geronimo which targets the full JEE stack.
>
> >
> > When I was trying to migrate from Glassfish to tomcat, i found it very
> > difficult to run my Java EE (JSF) web application via Tomcat 7. I had to
> > search for JARs and place them in tomcat/lib folder. Even after locating
> > some JARs and placing them in tomcat/lib folder, I failed to run my JSF
> web
> > aplication via tomcat7. I have seen (many) others have success running
> > their Java EE (JSF) web application via tomcat7.
> >
> > After multiple failed attempts in late 2012, trying to run my JSF web
> > application in tomcat 7, I downloaded tomee, emailed my questions to
> tomee
> > user list, and finally, i had success running my JSF web application via
> > tomee (which is tomcat + java EE, etc...).
> >
> > I don't recommend using Geronimo. I think Geronimo
> > effort/development/maintenance has transitioned to TomEE. Again, I
> > definitely recommend TomEE, and tomee user list is just as helpful as
> > tomcat user list. many of your tomcat-related questions can/should be
> asked
> > on tomcat list.
>
> I can't comment on the fitness of either project, as I don't use them
> personally, but my understanding is that they are not competing projects.
>  TomEE, like the JEE Web Profile, is simply a middle ground between Tomcat
> and Geronimo.
>
> Dan
>

agree on all counts, Dan. I stand corrected, thanks.

My response was not intended to show any level of competition between TomEE
and Geronimo. I think both projects share committers, or the same person as
lead for both projects. Recently, I learned/read that Geronimo targeted or
was developed for IBM.

As a TomEE user, i know that TomEE is alive and well. I don't think the
same could be said about Geronimo.


>
> >
> > FYI, I have been using NetBeans 7.2+ to start/stop TomEE via
> > NetBeans/tomcat7 plugin. I usually build WAR via NetBeans, and drop my
> WAR
> > in tomee/webapps folder. On my development PC/server, I use NetBeans to
> > start/stop TomEE server, and on my production server, I use tomcat7w.exe
> > (or the equivalent that is installed in tomee/bin folder) to
> > install/start/stop the tomcat7 (or tomee) Windows Service on my Windows
> > Server 2003/2008 server.
> >
> > My development server is Windows Server 2008 (Vista version), and my
> > production server is Windows Server 2008 (Windows 7) version. I would
> > assume that you should have no issues using Windows 8.x; i really don't
> > have any experience with Windows 8.x though.
>
>
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