Great, and thanks a lot for sharing this information.

I totally agreee with you that involving the community in this discussion is 
very useful to see the demands.

Kind Regards,

Zoltan Balogh


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> 
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2023 6:18 PM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat 9.x end of life

On 08/06/2023 16:32, Zoltan Balogh wrote:
> Dear Apache Team,
> 
> I just would like to ask is there any planned EOL for Tomcat 9?

Best guess at the moment (and it is only a guess - no decisions have been made) 
is 3 years after 8.5.x is EOL which gives a date of 31 March 2027.

It is worth noting that Tomcat major versions track releases of the Jakarta 
Servlet specification and there has been an effort from the Jakarta project to 
increase the release cadence. Delays are also not unheard of. The estimate 
above could easily be a year out in either direction.

> We are heavily using Java 8 that is supported until 2030, so we expect Apache 
> Tomcat 9 will be also support while Java 8 is supported.

That is extremely unlikely at this point.

> Important note that Tomcat 9 is the last release that works fine with Java 8 
> along with Java EE. Therefore, it is highly important for us to have a 
> maintained Tomcat 9 for Java 8.

Once Tomcat 9.0.x reaches EOL we will provide, assuming there is demand, Tomcat 
9.10.x which will be Tomcat 10.1.x but with the Java EE 8 API. 
The minimum Java requirement for 9.10.x will be Java 11.

Once Tomcat 10.1.x reaches EOL we will provide Tomcat 9.11.x which would be 
Tomcat 11.0.x but with the Java EE 8 API.

And so on.

All our planning to date has assumed that the primary demand would be for the 
newer features (that require newer JREs) supported by newer Tomcat versions but 
with the Java EE 8 API. If that assumption is incorrect and the primary demand 
is for Tomcat 9.0.x that runs on Java 8 then it is possible that we could just 
keep supporting Tomcat 9.0.x. 
Given that Tomcat 9.0.x will run quite happily on any currently supported 
version of Java (and should continue to do so) the EOL for Java 8 isn't really 
relevant to when we stop supporting Tomcat 9.0.x.

Any change in our plans for ongoing 9.0.x support would need some discussion. 
Input from the community would be especially useful.

Mark

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