I assume $GB means 4GB :)
With that kind of memory use it doesn't sound entirely like the OOM
killer.  Have you looked around the filesystem for hs_err[pid].pid
files?  This usually is written to the cwd of the java process.  That
might give you ideas if it's a native crash.  If so, it'll have the java
stack, and other native information that might shed some light.

Otherwise, if the Tomcat JVM isn't running as a daemon, is it nohup'ed?

Andy

On 01/11/2010 05:33 PM, Carl wrote:
> Peter and Andy,
>
> Thanks for your quick responses.
>
> Memory:  Physical - $GB
>                Used - 2.4GB to 3.0 GB (according to top... have never
> seen it above 3GB)
>                Swap - 19GB, none ever used (or, at least I have never
> seen any used.)
>
> The above are all from top.
>
> The 2.4GB is after the JVM just crashed (after running less than an
> hour after having run for five days with nary a blip) and I just
> restarted Tomcat (customers are running right now) so it is a little
> higher than normal because it has perhaps .5GB+ unrecovered from the
> point at which the JVM crashed.
>
> I checked dmsg but saw nothing that looked out of the ordinary.
>
> I will cut back on the heap and permgen tonight (gonna be a long one.)
>
> Any ideas are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Crowther"
> <peter.crowt...@melandra.com>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: JVM goes away
>
>
> 2010/1/11 Carl <c...@etrak-plus.com>:
>> This is a new server, a Dell T110 with a Xeon 3440 processor and 4GB
>> memory. I have turned off both the turbo mode and hyperthreading.
>>
>> The environment:
>>
>> 64 bit Slackware Linux
>>
>> java version "1.6.0_17"
>> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_17-b04)
>> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.3-b01, mixed mode)
>>
>> Tomcat: apache-tomcat-6.0.20
>>
>> JAVA_OPTS="-Xms2400m -Xmx2400m -XX:PermSize=512m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m"
>>
>> I have watched observed the memory usage and general performance with
>> Java VisualVM and have seen nothing strange. GC seems to be
>> performing well and the memory rarely gets anywhere near the max.
>>
>> The server runs well, idling along at 2-5% load, serving jsp's, etc.
>> at a reasonable speed. Without warning and with no tracks in any log
>> (Tomcat or system) or to the console, the JVM will just go away,
>> disappear. Sometimes, the system will run for a week, sometimes for
>> only several hours. Initially, I thought the problem was the turbo or
>> hyperthreading but, no, the problem persists.
>>
>> When the JVM goes away, the memory that it held is still being held
>> (as seen from top) but it is nowhere near the machine physical memory.
>>
>> The application has been running on an older server (Dell 600SC, 32
>> bit Slackware, 2GB memory) for several years and, while the
>> application will throw exceptions now and then, it never crashed the
>> JVM. This leads me to believe the problem has something to do with
>> the 64 bit JVM but, with errors, I can't be certain and don't know
>> what I can do about it except go back to 32 bit.
>>
>> I plan to reinstall Java tonight but, it would seem if the JVM were
>> corrupted, it simply would not run.
>>
>> Any ideas are welcome.
>
> I'm with Andy: the Linux OOM killer would show those symptoms.  With
> those settings, you're not leaving a lot of memory for the OS.  How
> much swap do you have, and does the same thing happen if you reduce
> the Java heap and permgen space?
>
> - Peter
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