Thank you for sharing your concerns. I guess the other option is to
extend OpenEJB container in order to support jar as deployment
archive.

Kind regards.,
Katya


On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The technical issues with OSGi are multiple and often app servers hide it
> to the users. The real gain of OSGi is often not usable with modern
> libraries. That s why we d prefer to not get too much osgi in tomee itself
> Le 1 mars 2013 18:00, "Howard W. Smith, Jr." <smithh032...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> >
>> >
>> > Basically tomee/openejb are jee anf not osgi but all osgi tweaks should
>> go
>> > in karafee.
>> >
>> > Just to explain the idea it would be a pain if tomee starts to be
>> > complicated/not straight fwd because if osgi.
>> >
>>
>> Interesting. you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Glassfish is
>> OSGI'ish, and honestly, I did not like the startup time of
>> Glassfish(3.1.2.2, last version I used) and I found deployment of 'updated'
>> EJBs was NOT reliable unless I undeployed entire app and redeployed (via
>> NetBeans, of course!).
>>
>> I love the startup time of TomEE!! wow, i can deploy hot/quick fixes much
>> quicker via TomEE+, and on the latest/newest 'production' server, TomEE
>> starts the app in 10 to 15 seconds, maybe quicker than that, haven't
>> checked the speed of TomEE+ startup time (recently).
>>
>> Glassfish (on older production server) took 'minutes' to startup and/or to
>> deploy hot/quick fixes. :(
>>

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