if you target Java 5 by using webstart
then there isnt to much of a problem just with that

But yes you do have especially with the mac the different jvm problems as
you have with browsers :(
But happily not that many problems (there are way more different browsers
and platforms) and if i have to say only one really bugs me (mac)

johan


On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Martijn Dashorst <
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> This only holds true if you have the full deployment environment under
> control: Java for OS X is much different than Java for Windows, as
> Johan can attest for. Just as with browsers you have to consider folks
> that don't update their JDK's, and many corporate IT guys don't want
> to update anything (including browsers!). So probably the easiest
> deployment platform still remains the browser, since most shops do
> have at least IE6 (while a shitty product in itself, it is manageable
> to get it to work).
>
> Deployment of anything, even web apps is an exciting thing in Corporations.
>
> Martijn
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Michael Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Zappaterrini, Larry wrote:
> >>
> >> Your reason is a special instance of a much more general reason. Web
> >> applications are much easier to deal with from a deployment
> >> perspective than desktop applications.
> >
> > I don't know, it's not difficult to set up an RMI server, or to deploy
> > a Swing client with Web Start (gives the user a single-click launch
> > from the browser).  I've done it, and frankly it's easier than messing
> > with Tomcat and Web frameworks (no offense to Wicket).
> >
> > And any developer who's coded a GUI using a proper toolkit, such as
> > Swing, will never willingly trade it for a Web framework.  (A big part
> > of the attraction of Wicket is its Swing-like, component design.  But
> > it can't approach the real thing.)
> >
> >> Also, there are firewall and security issues surrounding access to
> >> central data repositories that web applications handle nicely.
> >
> > That security coddling is a mixed blessing.  The browser's sandbox,
> > for instance, makes it a complicated business to provide the user with
> > normal access to resources on the desktop.  With Swing, your app is a
> > full peer on the desktop.
> >
> > True, there are firewall and NAT hurdles for RMI clients.  I googled
> > for "RMI over HTTP" and "HTTP tunneling", and I didn't get a
> > comfortable, reassuring response.  Why is that?  It's a mystery...  It
> > should be a well beaten path.
> >
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