James & Igor, It sounds like your experiences with UML are about what I am expecting it to be like.
Scott, the move to drop other programs in favor of JDeveloper is partly about cost-cutting, but more so about standardization. As I've mentioned, I'm the only Java programmer on staff, and I think JDeveloper and its out-of-the-box-ness will be a little less intimidating to the rest of the staff as we move towards Java than Eclipse with its many, many plugins. Martijn, "Apex is Apex" is a good way of putting it. I'm hoping that this will be a move away from Apex and toward application coding that is more maintainable. For the most part, I'm keeping a positive attitude about the change. I love Eclipse, and I expect that I'll find JDeveloper frustrating, but I'm looking forward to it as a chance to get some experience with something new. Same with UML. Whether or not it sticks, at least it will be a learning experience. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Martijn Reuvers<martijn.reuv...@gmail.com> wrote: > You might want to try Netbeans for UML (there is a single plugin, > install it and it works fine). I have not had any problems with it, it > has quite some features (similar to the ones in JDeveloper). > > Use SQLDeveloper (of Oracle as well) if you need to replace Toad, > however keep in mind it does not have all the dba features Toad > provides, no free tool has these in fact. > > Well Apex is Apex, it cannot be replaced easily as its tied so closely > to the oracle database and its pl/sql. > > As soon as you use Maven there is no need anymore for JDeveloper, at > least not for running/building the project. If you really require > specific features for instance for Apex you can still create a single > workspace next to the normal maven one and use that separately. > > As for weblogic, just deploy a war manually through its console if you > need to test it. However for faster testing I'd use Jetty with mvn > jetty:run (you can always add a weblogic*.xml to the final war to > override some libraries or so). > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Dane Laverty<danelave...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I've really enjoyed getting to use Maven on my recent projects. I'm no >> Maven expert, but I'm finding that I don't have to be -- it really >> just does a great job. Getting Maven working with JDeveloper has not >> been going well so far, so that's been one hangup. >> >> There are a few reasons for the department-wide IDE mandate. Our >> manager has just discovered UML (I don't know anything about it, to be >> honest), and JDeveloper provides UML functionality out of the box, >> while any of the free Eclipse UML plugins I could find required a >> mountain of dependencies and don't appear to work as smoothly as the >> JDev one. Also, we're trying to replace TOAD as our database tool, and >> JDev looks like it can do that. The third reason is that most of our >> applications are Oracle ApEx, and JDev has stuff for that too. >> >> I'm trying to port my existing apps to JDeveloper, but without much >> success. The main problems so far are: >> - How do I import a Wicket project using the Maven standard directory >> layout? (I am aware of the Maven JDev plugin for JDev 10, but it has >> issues with JDev 11) >> - How do I run a Wicket app in JDeveloper using the internal WebLogic server? >> - Does JDeveloper have some sort of Maven-like functionality for >> project lifecycle management? >> >> I imagine (hope) that most of these questions have easy answers, but >> I'm just not finding a lot of relevant online >> documentation/discussion. Most of the JDeveloper web app documentation >> is focused on EJBs or basic Servlet/JSP-based apps. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:53 AM, James >> Carman<jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote: >>> +1 on using Maven. Most folks at our job site use eclipse, but I'm an >>> IntelliJ junkie (they got me hooked many years ago and I can't break >>> free). For the most part, we don't have issues between environments, >>> provided folks have their plugins set up correctly. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Martijn Reuvers >>> <martijn.reuv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> When you use ADF, then stick to JDeveloper you'll get a lot of >>>> integration for your application and can really build applications >>>> fast. >>>> >>>> However if you use open-source frameworks like wicket, you're better >>>> off using one of the other IDE's (Netbeans, Eclipse, IntelliJ). Just >>>> use maven or so, then your management has nothing to say, as it does >>>> not really matter what IDE you use. I always say: Use whatever gets >>>> the job done. =) >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Dane Laverty<danelave...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Our management has chosen to make JDeveloper 11g the required IDE for >>>> > the department. Searching the Wicket mailing list archives, I find >>>> > that there is very little discussion about JDev. I'd be interested to >>>> > know, are any of you currently using JDeveloper as your main Wicket >>>> > IDE? >>>> > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org
